From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: penberg@cs.helsinki.fi, arjan@infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cl@linux-foundation.org,
npiggin@suse.de
Subject: Re: upcoming kerneloops.org item: get_page_from_freelist
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:07:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090624150714.c7264768.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0906241334260.3154@localhost.localdomain>
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:40:11 -0700 (PDT)
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > >
> > > If the caller gets oom-killed, the allocation attempt fails. Callers need
> > > to handle that.
> >
> > I actually disagree. I think we should just admit that we can always free
> > up enough space to get a few pages, in order to then oom-kill things.
>
> Btw, if you want to change the WARN_ON() to warn when you're in the
> "allocate in order to free memory" recursive case, then I'd have no issues
> with that.
>
> In fact, in that case it probably shouldn't even be conditional on the
> order.
>
> So a
>
> WARN_ON_ONCE((p->flags & PF_MEMALLOC) && (gfpmask & __GFP_NOFAIL));
>
> actually makes tons of sense.
I suspect that warning will trigger.
alloc_pages
-> ...
-> pageout
-> ...
-> get_request
-> blk_alloc_request
-> elv_set_request
-> cfq_set_request
-> cfq_get_queue
-> cfq_find_alloc_queue
-> kmem_cache_alloc_node(__GFP_NOFAIL)
-> Jens
How much this can happen in practice I don't know, but it looks bad.
> There are other cases where __GFP_NOFAIL doesn't make sense too, and that
> could be warned about. The __GFP_NORETRY thing was already mentioned.
> Similarly, !__GFP_WAIT doesn't work with __GFP_NOFAIL - because the nofail
> obviously relies on being able to do something about the failure case.
>
> We might want to also have rules like "in order to have NOFAIL, you need
> to allow IO and FS accesses".
Sure, that's sane.
fs/jbd/journal.c: new_bh = alloc_buffer_head(GFP_NOFS|__GFP_NOFAIL);
But that isn't :(
> So I don't mind warnings with __GFP_NOFAIL. I just think they should be
> relevant, and make sense. The "order > 0" one is neither.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-24 22:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-24 15:07 upcoming kerneloops.org item: get_page_from_freelist Arjan van de Ven
2009-06-24 16:46 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-24 16:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-24 16:55 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-24 16:56 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-24 17:00 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-24 17:55 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-24 17:53 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-24 18:30 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-24 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-24 18:44 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-24 18:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-24 19:12 ` Pekka J Enberg
2009-06-24 19:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-24 19:06 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-24 19:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-24 19:36 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-24 19:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-24 19:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-24 20:01 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-24 20:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-24 20:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-24 22:07 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2009-06-25 4:05 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-25 13:25 ` Theodore Tso
2009-06-25 18:51 ` David Rientjes
2009-06-25 19:38 ` Theodore Tso
2009-06-25 19:44 ` Theodore Tso
2009-06-25 19:55 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-25 20:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-25 20:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-25 20:36 ` David Rientjes
2009-06-25 20:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-25 22:25 ` David Rientjes
2009-06-26 8:51 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-25 20:18 ` David Rientjes
2009-06-25 20:37 ` Theodore Tso
2009-06-25 21:05 ` Joel Becker
2009-06-25 21:26 ` Andreas Dilger
2009-06-25 22:05 ` Theodore Tso
2009-06-25 22:11 ` Eric Sandeen
2009-06-26 1:11 ` Theodore Tso
2009-06-26 5:16 ` Pekka J Enberg
2009-06-26 8:56 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-26 8:58 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-26 9:07 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-29 21:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-30 7:59 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-26 14:41 ` Eric Sandeen
2009-06-29 21:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-29 21:20 ` Eric Sandeen
2009-06-29 22:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-25 19:55 ` Jens Axboe
2009-06-25 20:08 ` Jens Axboe
2009-06-24 21:56 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-25 4:14 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-25 8:21 ` David Rientjes
2009-06-29 15:30 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-29 19:20 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-30 11:00 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-30 19:35 ` David Rientjes
2009-06-30 20:32 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-30 20:51 ` David Rientjes
2009-07-01 10:22 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-29 23:35 ` David Rientjes
2009-06-30 7:47 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-30 8:13 ` David Rientjes
2009-06-30 8:24 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-30 8:41 ` David Rientjes
2009-06-30 9:09 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-30 19:47 ` David Rientjes
2009-06-30 6:27 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-28 10:16 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-28 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-28 18:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-06-28 18:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-30 7:35 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-24 18:43 ` Pekka Enberg
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