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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>
To: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Pierre-Marc Fournier <pierre-marc.fournier@polymtl.ca>,
	Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>,
	karim@opersys.com, Michel Dagenais <michel.dagenais@polymtl.ca>,
	ltt-dev@lists.casi.polymtl.ca,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Robert Wisniewski <bob@watson.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Dual-licensing LTTng, marker and tracepoints under GPLv2+/LGPLv2.1+
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:49:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090624164909.GA20653@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <y0mprctzj5v.fsf@fche.csb>

* Frank Ch. Eigler (fche@redhat.com) wrote:
> Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org> writes:
> 
> > [...]  The goal we pursue by dual-licensing with GPLv2/LGPLv2.1 is
> > to permit instrumented applications to be themselves distributed
> > under other license than GPL. [...]
> 
> Is there some reason you can't just fork/copy off some earlier version
> of these files over which you had sole authorship (if any)?
> 

Actually, for LTTng, I own the copyright of almost everything we need.
Most files written by others are mainly the debugfs interfaces done by
Fujitsu. There is some derived work from RelayFS in
ltt/ltt-relay-alloc.c and include/linux/ltt-relay.h, where getting IBM's
approval would be good, but I think in the end this will end up being
only a few tens of lines.

> 
> > [...]The goal is to permit this library, which includes the
> > tracepoints, markers and LTTng features, to be used by userspace
> > applications and libraries so they can add static instrumentation
> > (as we currently do in the kernel). [...]
> 
> Just in case you're not aware, some API prior art for this is the
> dtrace sdt.h widget (already supported by systemtap), and of course
> it has no similarity to the various kernel tracing APIs.

Yep, we're aware of this. However, last time I checked, dtrace SDT used
a breakpoint even for their userspace tracing, which has a way too large
performance overhead for our needs.

Moreover, they support only very, very limited typing (0 to 5 u32). In
this respect, tracepoints and markers are much more flexible.

Thanks,

Mathieu

> 
> - FChE
> 

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-24 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4A412702.80707@polymtl.ca>
     [not found] ` <20090623191128.GA19010@Krystal>
     [not found]   ` <20090623191513.GA20253@Krystal>
2009-06-24  0:43     ` Dual-licensing LTTng, marker and tracepoints under GPLv2+/LGPLv2.1+ Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-06-24  8:33       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-24 14:14         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-06-24 16:33           ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-06-24 16:49             ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2009-06-24 17:23               ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-06-29 23:00               ` Mark Wielaard

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