From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Jaswinder Singh Rajput <jaswinder@kernel.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip] perf_counter tools: shorten names for events
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:07:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090624180759.GG7576@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1245866393.3181.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>
* Jaswinder Singh Rajput <jaswinder@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 10:40 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Jaswinder Singh Rajput <jaswinder@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 21:56 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > > * Jaswinder Singh Rajput <jaswinder@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > here's an edited version of my suggestions:
> > > >
> > > > > 259250339 dL1-loads (scaled from 22.73%)
> > > > > 1187200 dL1-load-misses (scaled from 23.01%)
> > > > > 150454 dL1-stores (scaled from 23.01%)
> > > > > 494252 dL1-prefetches (scaled from 23.29%)
> > > > > 362661 dL1-prefetch-misses (scaled from 23.73%)
> > > > > 247343449 iL1-loads (scaled from 23.71%)
> > > > > 4804990 iL1-load-misses (scaled from 23.85%)
> > > > > 108711 iL1-prefetches (scaled from 23.83%)
> > > > > 6260313 LLC-loads (scaled from 23.82%)
> > > > > 605425 LLC-load-misses (scaled from 23.82%)
> > > > > 6898075 LLC-stores (scaled from 23.96%)
> > > > > 248334160 dTLB-loads (scaled from 23.95%)
> > > > > 3812835 dTLB-load-misses (scaled from 23.87%)
> > > > > 253208496 iTLB-loads (scaled from 23.73%)
> > > > > 5873 iTLB-load-misses (scaled from 23.46%)
> > > > > 110891027 branches (scaled from 23.21%)
> > > > > 5529622 branch-misses (scaled from 23.02%)
> > > >
> > > > We can leave out 'refs' i think - without any qualification
> > > > statements like '247343449 iL1-loads' are still unambigious i think.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Looks good.
> > >
> > > > Plus we can abbreviate dL1/iL1/dTLB/iTLB. The capitalization
> > > > matters. Also, note that it's LLC (Last Level Cache), not L2.
> > > >
> > > > ( Sidenote: L2 can still be an alias for LLC, even though some CPUs
> > > > have a L3 too. )
> > > >
> > >
> > > Ok, I will fix it and also set the alias.
> > >
> > > > Note, branches are special - we dont really have 'branch loads',
> > > > branches are executions. 'Branches' and 'Branch-misses' are the
> > > > right term.
> > > >
> > > > Do you agree?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Event we used for (BPU, READ, ACCESS) is 'branch instructions
> > > retired'
> > >
> > > So 'branch loads' we mean 'branch instruction loaded and retired'
> > >
> > > I like all of them : 'branch loads', 'branch retired' or
> > > 'branches'
> >
> > There's two things:
> >
> > Firstly, there are "loads" are when data is loaded into the CPU. It
> > has a very firm meaning.
> >
> > Secondly, the "loading an instruction into the CPU" idiom you
> > mention is not really correct - what we generally say is to "fetch
> > an instruction".
> >
> > In that sense using 'branch loads' is confusing, and that's why i
> > corrected it. 'branches' is perfectly fine shortcut for 'branch
> > instructions executed'. (or branch instructions fetched and retired)
> >
>
>
> OK, We will show :
> 'branch loads' -> 'branches'
> 'branch load-misses' -> 'branch-misses'
>
> now issue is how we can show :
>
> 'branch stores' -> ?
> 'branch store-misses' -> ?
>
> 'branch prefetches' -> ?
> 'branch prefetch-misses' -> ?
there's no such thing as a 'branch store'. Instructions are not
stored. We shouldnt display those.
They are prefetched sometimes speculatively ... not sure there are
events for them ... are there?
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-24 18:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-23 12:28 [PATCH -tip] perf_counter tools: shorten names for events Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-23 13:52 ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-23 19:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-23 22:12 ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-23 22:59 ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-24 8:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-24 17:59 ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-24 18:07 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-06-24 18:18 ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-24 20:41 ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-24 21:00 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-06-25 4:29 ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-25 4:34 ` Roland Dreier
2009-06-25 9:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-25 9:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-25 12:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-06-25 13:23 ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-25 15:05 ` Roland Dreier
2009-06-25 15:11 ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-25 15:03 ` Roland Dreier
2009-06-25 15:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-25 9:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-25 12:55 ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-25 15:09 ` Roland Dreier
2009-06-25 15:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-25 15:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-26 16:06 ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-26 18:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-05 0:25 ` Anton Blanchard
2009-07-05 0:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-06 12:01 ` [PATCH] perf_counter tools: Rename cache events to remove $ Anton Blanchard
2009-07-10 10:39 ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " tip-bot for Anton Blanchard
2009-06-25 15:33 ` [tip:perfcounters/urgent] perf_counter tools: Shorten names for events tip-bot for Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-25 15:57 ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-25 19:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-25 19:57 ` [tip:perfcounters/urgent] perf_counter tools: Add alias for 'l1d' and 'l1i' tip-bot for Jaswinder Singh Rajput
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