From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Richard Kennedy <richard@rsk.demon.co.uk>,
a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] mm: stop balance_dirty_pages doing too much work
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:13:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090625051359.GB31415@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090624152732.d6352f4f.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Wed, Jun 24 2009, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:38:24 +0100
> Richard Kennedy <richard@rsk.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > When writing to 2 (or more) devices at the same time, stop
> > balance_dirty_pages moving dirty pages to writeback when it has reached
> > the bdi threshold. This prevents balance_dirty_pages overshooting its
> > limits and moving all dirty pages to writeback.
> >
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Richard Kennedy <richard@rsk.demon.co.uk>
> > ---
> > balance_dirty_pages can overreact and move all of the dirty pages to
> > writeback unnecessarily.
> >
> > balance_dirty_pages makes its decision to throttle based on the number
> > of dirty plus writeback pages that are over the calculated limit,so it
> > will continue to move pages even when there are plenty of pages in
> > writeback and less than the threshold still dirty.
> >
> > This allows it to overshoot its limits and move all the dirty pages to
> > writeback while waiting for the drives to catch up and empty the
> > writeback list.
> >
> > A simple fio test easily demonstrates this problem.
> >
> > fio --name=f1 --directory=/disk1 --size=2G -rw=write
> > --name=f2 --directory=/disk2 --size=1G --rw=write --startdelay=10
> >
> > The attached graph before.png shows how all pages are moved to writeback
> > as the second write starts and the throttling kicks in.
> >
> > after.png is the same test with the patch applied, which clearly shows
> > that it keeps dirty_background_ratio dirty pages in the buffer.
> > The values and timings of the graphs are only approximate but are good
> > enough to show the behaviour.
> >
> > This is the simplest fix I could find, but I'm not entirely sure that it
> > alone will be enough for all cases. But it certainly is an improvement
> > on my desktop machine writing to 2 disks.
> >
> > Do we need something more for machines with large arrays where
> > bdi_threshold * number_of_drives is greater than the dirty_ratio ?
> >
>
> um. Interesting find. Jens, was any of your performance testing using
> multiple devices? If so, it looks like the results just got invalidated :)
"invalidated" is a bit too much I think, skewed is more like it. But
most of my testing has been on a single spindle, only the very first
patches used 10 disks as a test base.
> > diff --git a/mm/page-writeback.c b/mm/page-writeback.c
> > index 7b0dcea..7687879 100644
> > --- a/mm/page-writeback.c
> > +++ b/mm/page-writeback.c
> > @@ -541,8 +541,11 @@ static void balance_dirty_pages(struct address_space *mapping)
> > * filesystems (i.e. NFS) in which data may have been
> > * written to the server's write cache, but has not yet
> > * been flushed to permanent storage.
> > + * Only move pages to writeback if this bdi is over its
> > + * threshold otherwise wait until the disk writes catch
> > + * up.
> > */
> > - if (bdi_nr_reclaimable) {
> > + if (bdi_nr_reclaimable > bdi_thresh) {
> > writeback_inodes(&wbc);
> > pages_written += write_chunk - wbc.nr_to_write;
> > get_dirty_limits(&background_thresh, &dirty_thresh,
>
> yup, we need to think about the effect with zillions of disks. Peter,
> could you please take a look?
>
> Also... get_dirty_limits() is rather hard to grok. The callers of
> get_dirty_limits() treat its three return values as "thresholds", but
> they're not named as thresholds within get_dirty_limits() itself, which
> is a bit confusing. And the meaning of each of those return values is
> pretty obscure from the code - could we document them please?
This is indeed a pretty interesting find!
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-25 5:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-24 10:38 [RFC][PATCH] mm: stop balance_dirty_pages doing too much work Richard Kennedy
2009-06-24 22:27 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-25 5:13 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2009-06-25 8:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-25 9:10 ` Jens Axboe
2009-06-25 9:26 ` Jens Axboe
2009-06-25 12:33 ` Al Boldi
2009-06-25 12:43 ` Jens Axboe
2009-06-25 13:46 ` Al Boldi
2009-06-25 14:44 ` Jens Axboe
2009-06-25 17:10 ` Al Boldi
2009-06-26 5:02 ` Jens Axboe
2009-06-26 11:37 ` Al Boldi
2009-06-26 12:35 ` Jens Axboe
2009-06-26 9:15 ` Richard Kennedy
2009-06-26 9:20 ` Jens Axboe
2009-08-07 12:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-07 14:36 ` Richard Kennedy
2009-08-07 14:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-07 15:22 ` Chris Mason
2009-08-07 16:09 ` Richard Kennedy
2009-08-07 21:02 ` Chris Mason
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