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From: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, earl_chew@agilent.com,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v3)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:36:21 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090629023621.GA4289@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090628222455.GA21475@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:24:55AM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 06/28, Neil Horman wrote:
> >
> > Allow for the kernel to wait for a core_pattern process to complete
> 
> (please change the subject to match)
> 
Fine.

> > One of the things core_pattern processes might do is interrogate the status of a
> > crashing process via its /proc/pid directory.  To ensure that that directory is
> > not removed prematurely, we wait for the process to exit prior to cleaning it
> > up.
> >
> > Since the addition of this feature makes it possible to block the reaping of a
> > crashed process (if the collecting process never exits), Also introduce a new
> > sysctl: core_pipe_limit.
> 
> Perhaps this sysctl should be added in a separate patch? This patch mixes
> differents things imho.
> 
No, I disagree. If we're going to have a sysctl, It should be added in this
patch.  I agree that since these processes run as root, we can have all sort of
bad things happen.  But I think theres an advantage to being able to limit the
damage that a core_pattern process can do if it never exits.   This is a problem
we can avoid easily, and I'd rather not introduce the possibility of waiting
(forever) on a process without the ability to mitigate the risks that incurrs.

> But in fact I don't really understand why do we need the new sysctl. Yes,
> if the collecting process never exits, the coredumping thread can't be reaped.
> But this process runs as root, it can do other bad things. And let's suppose
> it just does nothing, say sleeps forever, and do not read the data from pipe.
> In that case, regardless of any sysctls, ->core_dump() never finishes too.
> 
Not always true, in the event that the core file is smaller than the pipe size.
But regardless, if ->core_dump never returns due to the aforementioned
situation, the sysctl provides the ability to mitigate the damange that can do,
since the dump count is held while ->core_dump is called.

> > +fail_dropcount:
> > +	if (dump_count) {
> > +		while (core_pipe_limit && inode->i_pipe->readers)
> > +			pipe_wait(inode->i_pipe);
> 
> No, no, this is racy and wrong.
> 
> First, it is possible that it exits between ->readers != 0 check and
> pipe_wait(), we will sleep forever.
> 
Its my understanding that pipe_wait returns from any pipe event, including the
closing of a pipe, I would have thought that the above code would catch that,
although, as I type that, I can see how it wouldn't without a lock.

> Also, pipe_wait() should be called under pipe_lock(), I guess lockdep
> should complain if you test your patch ;)
> 
I did test it, and received no such lockdep warnings.

> I'd suggest you to make a simple helper,
> 
> 	static inline void xxx(struct file *file)
> 	{
> 		struct pipe_inode_info *pipe = file->...;
> 
> 		wait_event(pipe->wait, pipe->readers == 0);
> 	}
> 
> I believe we don't need pipe_lock().
> 
Ok, I like that, I'll repost tomorrow morning, after I get some sleep.
Thanks!
Neil

> Oleg.
> 
> 
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-29  2:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-22 17:28 [PATCH] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern Neil Horman
2009-06-25 23:30 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-26  1:49   ` Neil Horman
2009-06-26 10:48   ` Neil Horman
2009-06-26 16:20     ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-26 17:30       ` Neil Horman
2009-06-28 19:31       ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-28 20:52         ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-28 21:00           ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-28 21:18             ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-28 21:50               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-28 21:35           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-28 21:48             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-28 22:06               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-29  9:15                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-28 21:52             ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-26 18:00   ` Neil Horman
2009-06-26 18:02   ` [PATCH 1/2] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern: recursive dump detection Neil Horman
2009-06-26 16:59     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 20:24       ` Neil Horman
2009-06-26 19:14         ` [PATCH 0/2] do_coredump: misc cleanups Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 19:14           ` [PATCH 1/2] do_coredump: factor out put_cred() calls Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 22:40             ` Roland McGrath
2009-06-26 20:33               ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 19:16           ` [PATCH 2/2] do_coredump: move !ispipe code into "else" branch Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 20:18             ` Q: do_coredump() && d_unhashed() Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 22:57           ` [PATCH 0/2] do_coredump: misc cleanups Neil Horman
2009-06-26 19:37     ` [PATCH 1/2] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern: recursive dump detection Andrew Morton
2009-06-26 20:17       ` Neil Horman
2009-06-26 18:03   ` [PATCH 2/2] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern: wait for core collectors Neil Horman
2009-06-26 16:48     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 20:20       ` Neil Horman
2009-06-29  0:33   ` [PATCH 1/2] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v3) Neil Horman
2009-06-29  0:35   ` [PATCH 2/2] " Neil Horman
2009-06-28 22:24     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-28 23:24       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-29  2:36       ` Neil Horman [this message]
2009-06-28 23:32         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-29 10:21           ` Neil Horman
2009-06-30  0:06             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-29  0:32 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Neil Horman
2009-06-30 17:38 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v4) Neil Horman
2009-06-30 17:42   ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v4) Neil Horman
2009-06-30 17:43   ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v4) Neil Horman
2009-06-30 17:46   ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v4) Neil Horman
2009-07-01  5:52     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-01 10:31       ` Neil Horman
2009-07-01 12:25         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-01 14:12           ` Neil Horman
2009-07-01 14:48             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-01 15:26 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v5) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 15:30   ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v5) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 15:34   ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v5) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 15:37   ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v5) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 16:06     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-01 18:19       ` Neil Horman
2009-07-01 18:28 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v6) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 18:31   ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v6) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 18:32   ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v6) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 18:37   ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v6) Neil Horman
2009-07-02  8:29     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-02 10:29       ` Neil Horman
2009-07-02 11:36         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-02 14:44           ` Neil Horman
2009-07-02 15:37             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-02 17:53               ` Neil Horman
2009-07-03 10:10                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-02 22:57 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v7) Neil Horman
2009-07-02 22:59   ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v7) Neil Horman
2009-07-02 23:00   ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v7) Neil Horman
2009-07-02 23:01   ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v7) Neil Horman
2009-07-03 10:16     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-03 10:44 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v8) Neil Horman
2009-07-03 10:50   ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v8) Neil Horman
2009-07-07 16:14     ` Neil Horman
2009-07-03 10:51   ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v8) Neil Horman
2009-07-07 16:15     ` Neil Horman
2009-07-03 10:52   ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v8) Neil Horman
2009-07-07 16:19     ` Neil Horman
2009-07-07 16:35       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-07 16:13   ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v8) Neil Horman
2009-07-20 15:49   ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v9) Neil Horman
2009-07-20 16:27     ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v9) Neil Horman
2009-07-20 16:29     ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v9) Neil Horman
2009-08-07 17:08       ` Randy Dunlap
2009-07-20 16:32     ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v9) Neil Horman
2009-07-29 15:13 ` [PATCH] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern Scott James Remnant
2009-07-29 20:18   ` Neil Horman
2009-07-31 20:20     ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-01 13:41       ` Neil Horman
2009-08-01 18:28         ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-02  0:22           ` Neil Horman
2009-08-02 13:49             ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-02 23:50               ` Neil Horman

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