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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Jaswinder Singh Rajput <jaswinder@kernel.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3 -tip] perf_counter tools: Add support to set of multiple events in one shot
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:47:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090630224704.GJ1241@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1246368165.2434.1.camel@ht.satnam>


* Jaswinder Singh Rajput <jaswinder@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 11:57 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Jaswinder Singh Rajput <jaswinder@kernel.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 05:57 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > 
> > > > The above patterns i suggested _already cover_ 'multiple events'.
> > > > 
> > > > We might define further aliases like:
> > > > 
> > > > 	all := "*"
> > > >         all-sw := "sw-*"
> > > > 
> > > > but it should all be in terms of patterns and regular 
> > > > expressions, not via some hardcoded special-case thing as your 
> > > > posted patches did.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > It seems to me very confusing and needs lot of book-keeping and 
> > > need to rewrite whole tools/perf/util/parse-events.c because :
> > > 
> > > * means all perf_event_types :
> > > 	PERF_TYPE_HARDWARE,
> > >         PERF_TYPE_SOFTWARE,
> > >         PERF_TYPE_TRACEPOINT,
> > >         PERF_TYPE_HW_CACHE,
> > >         PERF_TYPE_RAW
> > > 
> > > hw-* means all hardware events :
> > > 	PERF_TYPE_HARDWARE,
> > >         PERF_TYPE_HW_CACHE,
> > >         PERF_TYPE_RAW
> > > 
> > > sw-* means all software events :
> > >         PERF_TYPE_SOFTWARE,
> > >         PERF_TYPE_TRACEPOINT
> > > 
> > > *cache* means all cache based events :
> > > 	PERF_COUNT_CACHE_REFERENCES, 	/* Generalized H/W */
> > > 	PERF_COUNT_CACHE_MISSES,	/* Generalized H/W */
> > >         PERF_TYPE_HW_CACHE,		/* Generalized Cache */
> > > 
> > > *write* means all write based events :
> > > 	(L1D,       WRITE,          ACCESS),
> > > 	(L1D,       WRITE,          MISS),
> > > 	(LL,        WRITE,          ACCESS),
> > > 	(LL,        WRITE,          MISS),
> > > 	(DTLB,      WRITE,          ACCESS),
> > > 	(DTLB,      WRITE,          MISS)
> > > 
> > > Please let me know why it looks complex to me, is it really 
> > > complex or I am going in wrong direction.
> > 
> > It would certainly need some reorganization of the code but the end 
> > result would be more flexible and other places could use it too, for 
> > example:
> > 
> > 	perf test -e hw-*
> > 
> > would test all (known) hardware counters.
> > 
> 
> Its true.
> 
> Can you please verify that the assumptions I made above are 
> correct.

Well, the right way to approach this is to assign each event a "full 
name" and a list of aliases/shortcuts (like we have now), and then 
do pattern matching on the full name.

So we'd have full/long event names like:

  hw-cycles
  hw-instructions
  hw-l1-cache-load-misses
  sw-minor-page-faults
  ...

to implement regex patterns over these, no event specific knowledge 
should be put into the pattern matching engine itself - it just 
blindly goes over the full names as strings.

As long as the full names are unique and structured well, this will 
work fine. The only non-trivial piece of restructuring is to make it 
easy for the pattern matching engine to iterate over all events. 
Right now they are in separate tables - perhaps they should be 
collected into a single table or so.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-30 22:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-26 21:30 [GIT PULL -tip][PATCH 0/3 -tip] perf stat patches Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-26 21:32 ` [PATCH 1/3 -tip] perf stat: fix stat output Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-26 21:33   ` [PATCH 2/3 -tip] perf_counter tools: Add support to set of multiple events in one shot Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-26 21:35     ` [PATCH 3/3 -tip] perf_counter tools: Add support for all CACHE events Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-27 16:38     ` [PATCH 2/3 -tip] perf_counter tools: Add support to set of multiple events in one shot Ingo Molnar
2009-06-27 19:04       ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-28 13:29         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-28 15:16           ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-29  3:57             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-30  8:38               ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-30  9:57                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-30 13:22                   ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-30 22:47                     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-06-27 17:31   ` [tip:perfcounters/urgent] perf stat: Improve output tip-bot for Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-29 17:11     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-29 19:52       ` Ingo Molnar

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