From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Hitoshi Mitake <mitake@dcl.info.waseda.ac.jp>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] Adding information of counts processes acquired how many spinlocks to schedstat
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:50:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090701135032.GA21069@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090701134501.GA5097@nowhere>
* Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 09:31:39AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >
> > * Hitoshi Mitake <mitake@dcl.info.waseda.ac.jp> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I wrote a test patch which add information of counts processes
> > > acquired how many spinlocks to schedstat. After applied this
> > > patch, /proc/<PID>/sched will change like this,
> > >
> > > init (1, #threads: 1)
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > > se.exec_start : 482130.851458
> > > se.vruntime : 26883.107980
> > > se.sum_exec_runtime : 2316.651816
> > > se.avg_overlap : 0.480053
> > > se.avg_wakeup : 14.999993
> > > ....
> > > se.nr_wakeups_passive : 1
> > > se.nr_wakeups_idle : 0
> > > se.nr_acquired_spinlock : 74483
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > Looks potentially useful - but it would be nice and go one step
> > further and add lock acquire stats as a software-counter.
> >
> > Perfcounters is a feature of the latest upstream kernel, there's a
> > (still very small) Wiki page about it at:
> >
> > http://perf.wiki.kernel.org
> >
> > With perfcounters we can instrument various software properties of
> > the kernel as well, for example the number of page-faults in the
> > system per second:
> >
> > $ perf stat -a -e page-faults sleep 1
> >
> > Performance counter stats for 'sleep 1':
> >
> > 294387 page-faults
> >
> > 1.022318527 seconds time elapsed
> >
> > Now, it would be nice to have a lock-acquire software-counter as
> > well, which would output things like:
> >
> > $ perf stat -a -e lock-acquires sleep 1
> >
> > Performance counter stats for 'sleep 1':
> >
> > 294387 lock-acquires
> >
> > 1.022318527 seconds time elapsed
> >
> > Furthermore, beyond plain counts, doing this would also allow the
> > profiling of lock acquire places: perf record -e lock-acquires and
> > perf report would work fine.
> >
> > It is really easy to add a new sw counter, check how it is done for
> > the pagefault counter(s), see the uses of PERF_COUNT_SW_PAGE_FAULTS
> > in the following files:
> >
> > $ git grep -l PERF_COUNT_SW_PAGE_FAULTS
> >
> > arch/powerpc/mm/fault.c
> > arch/x86/mm/fault.c
> > include/linux/perf_counter.h
> > kernel/perf_counter.c
> > tools/perf/builtin-stat.c
> > tools/perf/design.txt
>
>
> Indeed, the raw number of lock acquired may be useful for a perf
> profiling especially in the case of profile comparison.
>
> But IMHO, this information is too much orphan and lonesome. We
> would gain a lot if this information is provided per lock. Another
> useful info would be the rate of the time spent in a contended
> state for a given lock.
>
> Which makes me think it may be better to use the existing ftrace
> lock events as softwares counters for that, which takes into
> account the following events:
>
> - lock_acquire
> - lock_release
> - lock_contended
> - lock_acquired
>
> And these events are per lock.
>
> Now the missing piece is the sampling count for events...
Yeah, this is an even better idea. It gets the acquire counts - and
much more.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-01 13:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-01 6:21 [PATCH][RFC] Adding information of counts processes acquired how many spinlocks to schedstat Hitoshi Mitake
2009-07-01 7:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-01 8:21 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-07-01 13:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-07-01 13:50 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-07-01 14:17 ` mitake
2009-07-01 7:38 ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-01 8:42 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-07-01 9:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-01 9:42 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-07-01 11:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-01 12:53 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-07-01 15:44 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-07-06 5:20 ` mitake
2009-07-06 8:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-06 11:54 ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-10 12:45 ` mitake
2009-07-10 12:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-10 13:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-10 13:46 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-07-10 13:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-10 13:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-12 7:23 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-07-12 13:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-13 6:06 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-07-13 8:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-14 0:48 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-07-18 13:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-01 12:40 ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-01 13:50 ` [PATCH][RFC] Adding information of counts processes acquired how many spinlocks to schedstat II Andi Kleen
2009-07-01 9:48 ` [PATCH][RFC] Adding information of counts processes acquired how many spinlocks to schedstat Andi Kleen
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