* [PATCH] doc: missing value 2 for randomize-va-space @ 2009-07-02 15:23 Horst Schirmeier 2009-07-02 23:11 ` Jiri Kosina 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Horst Schirmeier @ 2009-07-02 15:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: rdunlap; +Cc: linux-doc, linux-kernel, trivial The documentation for /proc/sys/kernel/* does not mention the possible value 2 for randomize-va-space (but already mentions what it does). Signed-off-by: Horst Schirmeier <horst@schirmeier.com> --- Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt b/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt index 322a00b..b2af4ef 100644 --- a/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt +++ b/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt @@ -310,7 +310,7 @@ that support this feature. loaded to random addresses. Also for PIE-linked binaries, the location of code start is randomized. - With heap randomization, the situation is a little bit more +2 - With heap randomization, the situation is a little bit more complicated. There a few legacy applications out there (such as some ancient versions of libc.so.5 from 1996) that assume that brk area starts -- PGP-Key 0xD40E0E7A ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] doc: missing value 2 for randomize-va-space 2009-07-02 15:23 [PATCH] doc: missing value 2 for randomize-va-space Horst Schirmeier @ 2009-07-02 23:11 ` Jiri Kosina 2009-07-03 0:05 ` Horst Schirmeier 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Jiri Kosina @ 2009-07-02 23:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Horst Schirmeier; +Cc: rdunlap, linux-doc, linux-kernel On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Horst Schirmeier wrote: > The documentation for /proc/sys/kernel/* does not mention the possible > value 2 for randomize-va-space (but already mentions what it does). Hmm, while you are at it ... > Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt | 2 +- > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) > > diff --git a/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt b/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt > index 322a00b..b2af4ef 100644 > --- a/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt > +++ b/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt > @@ -310,7 +310,7 @@ that support this feature. > loaded to random addresses. Also for PIE-linked binaries, the location > of code start is randomized. > > - With heap randomization, the situation is a little bit more > +2 - With heap randomization, the situation is a little bit more > complicated. > There a few legacy applications out there (such as some ancient ... would you please fix this typo/grammo as well? (There a few ...) > versions of libc.so.5 from 1996) that assume that brk area starts Also, the text itself doesn't seem to be super-clear ... namely, it describes what CONFIG_COMPAT_BRK is about, but doesn't really clarify how exactly does this correlate with randomize_va_space == 2. Would you mind also fixing this bit? Thanks, -- Jiri Kosina SUSE Labs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] doc: missing value 2 for randomize-va-space 2009-07-02 23:11 ` Jiri Kosina @ 2009-07-03 0:05 ` Horst Schirmeier 2009-07-03 10:01 ` Jiri Kosina 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Horst Schirmeier @ 2009-07-03 0:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jiri Kosina; +Cc: rdunlap, linux-doc, linux-kernel, trivial On Fri, 03 Jul 2009, Jiri Kosina wrote: > > There a few legacy applications out there (such as some ancient > > ... would you please fix this typo/grammo as well? (There a few ...) > > > versions of libc.so.5 from 1996) that assume that brk area starts > > Also, the text itself doesn't seem to be super-clear ... namely, it > describes what CONFIG_COMPAT_BRK is about, but doesn't really clarify how > exactly does this correlate with randomize_va_space == 2. Would you mind > also fixing this bit? I hope I didn't misread the sources :-) Opinions? --- The documentation for /proc/sys/kernel/* does not mention the possible value 2 for randomize-va-space yet. While being there, doing some reformatting, fixing grammar problems and clarifying the correlations between randomize-va-space, kernel parameter "norandmaps" and the CONFIG_COMPAT_BRK option. Signed-off-by: Horst Schirmeier <horst@schirmeier.com> --- Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt | 30 +++++++++++++++++------------- 1 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-) diff --git a/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt b/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt index 322a00b..dd8322f 100644 --- a/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt +++ b/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt @@ -303,25 +303,29 @@ This option can be used to select the type of process address space randomization that is used in the system, for architectures that support this feature. -0 - Turn the process address space randomization off by default. +0 - Turn the process address space randomization off. This is the + default for architectures that do not support this feature anyways, + and kernels that are booted with the "norandmaps" parameter. 1 - Make the addresses of mmap base, stack and VDSO page randomized. This, among other things, implies that shared libraries will be - loaded to random addresses. Also for PIE-linked binaries, the location - of code start is randomized. + loaded to random addresses. Also for PIE-linked binaries, the + location of code start is randomized. This is the default if the + CONFIG_COMPAT_BRK option is enabled. - With heap randomization, the situation is a little bit more - complicated. - There a few legacy applications out there (such as some ancient +2 - Additionally enable heap randomization. This is the default if + CONFIG_COMPAT_BRK is disabled. + + There are a few legacy applications out there (such as some ancient versions of libc.so.5 from 1996) that assume that brk area starts - just after the end of the code+bss. These applications break when - start of the brk area is randomized. There are however no known + just after the end of the code+bss. These applications break when + start of the brk area is randomized. There are however no known non-legacy applications that would be broken this way, so for most - systems it is safe to choose full randomization. However there is - a CONFIG_COMPAT_BRK option for systems with ancient and/or broken - binaries, that makes heap non-randomized, but keeps all other - parts of process address space randomized if randomize_va_space - sysctl is turned on. + systems it is safe to choose full randomization. + + Systems with ancient and/or broken binaries should be configured + with CONFIG_COMPAT_BRK enabled, which excludes the heap from process + address space randomization. ============================================================== -- PGP-Key 0xD40E0E7A ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] doc: missing value 2 for randomize-va-space 2009-07-03 0:05 ` Horst Schirmeier @ 2009-07-03 10:01 ` Jiri Kosina 2009-07-03 10:24 ` Ingo Molnar 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Jiri Kosina @ 2009-07-03 10:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Horst Schirmeier; +Cc: rdunlap, linux-doc, linux-kernel, Ingo Molnar [ added Ingo to CC ] On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Horst Schirmeier wrote: > On Fri, 03 Jul 2009, Jiri Kosina wrote: > > > There a few legacy applications out there (such as some ancient > > > > ... would you please fix this typo/grammo as well? (There a few ...) > > > > > versions of libc.so.5 from 1996) that assume that brk area starts > > > > Also, the text itself doesn't seem to be super-clear ... namely, it > > describes what CONFIG_COMPAT_BRK is about, but doesn't really clarify how > > exactly does this correlate with randomize_va_space == 2. Would you mind > > also fixing this bit? > > I hope I didn't misread the sources :-) Opinions? > > --- > > The documentation for /proc/sys/kernel/* does not mention the possible > value 2 for randomize-va-space yet. While being there, doing some > reformatting, fixing grammar problems and clarifying the correlations > between randomize-va-space, kernel parameter "norandmaps" and the > CONFIG_COMPAT_BRK option. > > Signed-off-by: Horst Schirmeier <horst@schirmeier.com> Acked-by: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz> Ingo, will you take this through your tree? > > --- > Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt | 30 +++++++++++++++++------------- > 1 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt b/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt > index 322a00b..dd8322f 100644 > --- a/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt > +++ b/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt > @@ -303,25 +303,29 @@ This option can be used to select the type of process address > space randomization that is used in the system, for architectures > that support this feature. > > -0 - Turn the process address space randomization off by default. > +0 - Turn the process address space randomization off. This is the > + default for architectures that do not support this feature anyways, > + and kernels that are booted with the "norandmaps" parameter. > > 1 - Make the addresses of mmap base, stack and VDSO page randomized. > This, among other things, implies that shared libraries will be > - loaded to random addresses. Also for PIE-linked binaries, the location > - of code start is randomized. > + loaded to random addresses. Also for PIE-linked binaries, the > + location of code start is randomized. This is the default if the > + CONFIG_COMPAT_BRK option is enabled. > > - With heap randomization, the situation is a little bit more > - complicated. > - There a few legacy applications out there (such as some ancient > +2 - Additionally enable heap randomization. This is the default if > + CONFIG_COMPAT_BRK is disabled. > + > + There are a few legacy applications out there (such as some ancient > versions of libc.so.5 from 1996) that assume that brk area starts > - just after the end of the code+bss. These applications break when > - start of the brk area is randomized. There are however no known > + just after the end of the code+bss. These applications break when > + start of the brk area is randomized. There are however no known > non-legacy applications that would be broken this way, so for most > - systems it is safe to choose full randomization. However there is > - a CONFIG_COMPAT_BRK option for systems with ancient and/or broken > - binaries, that makes heap non-randomized, but keeps all other > - parts of process address space randomized if randomize_va_space > - sysctl is turned on. > + systems it is safe to choose full randomization. > + > + Systems with ancient and/or broken binaries should be configured > + with CONFIG_COMPAT_BRK enabled, which excludes the heap from process > + address space randomization. > > ============================================================== > > > -- > PGP-Key 0xD40E0E7A > Thanks, -- Jiri Kosina SUSE Labs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] doc: missing value 2 for randomize-va-space 2009-07-03 10:01 ` Jiri Kosina @ 2009-07-03 10:24 ` Ingo Molnar 2009-07-03 10:26 ` Jiri Kosina 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Ingo Molnar @ 2009-07-03 10:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jiri Kosina; +Cc: Horst Schirmeier, rdunlap, linux-doc, linux-kernel * Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz> wrote: > > [ added Ingo to CC ] > > On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Horst Schirmeier wrote: > > > On Fri, 03 Jul 2009, Jiri Kosina wrote: > > > > There a few legacy applications out there (such as some ancient > > > > > > ... would you please fix this typo/grammo as well? (There a few ...) > > > > > > > versions of libc.so.5 from 1996) that assume that brk area starts > > > > > > Also, the text itself doesn't seem to be super-clear ... namely, it > > > describes what CONFIG_COMPAT_BRK is about, but doesn't really clarify how > > > exactly does this correlate with randomize_va_space == 2. Would you mind > > > also fixing this bit? > > > > I hope I didn't misread the sources :-) Opinions? > > > > --- > > > > The documentation for /proc/sys/kernel/* does not mention the possible > > value 2 for randomize-va-space yet. While being there, doing some > > reformatting, fixing grammar problems and clarifying the correlations > > between randomize-va-space, kernel parameter "norandmaps" and the > > CONFIG_COMPAT_BRK option. > > > > Signed-off-by: Horst Schirmeier <horst@schirmeier.com> > > Acked-by: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz> > > Ingo, will you take this through your tree? > > > > > --- > > Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt | 30 +++++++++++++++++------------- > > 1 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-) This could go to your or Randy's docs tree, right? (would be fine by me) Ingo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] doc: missing value 2 for randomize-va-space 2009-07-03 10:24 ` Ingo Molnar @ 2009-07-03 10:26 ` Jiri Kosina 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Jiri Kosina @ 2009-07-03 10:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ingo Molnar; +Cc: Horst Schirmeier, rdunlap, linux-doc, linux-kernel On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > > > There a few legacy applications out there (such as some ancient > > > > > > > > ... would you please fix this typo/grammo as well? (There a few ...) > > > > > > > > > versions of libc.so.5 from 1996) that assume that brk area starts > > > > > > > > Also, the text itself doesn't seem to be super-clear ... namely, it > > > > describes what CONFIG_COMPAT_BRK is about, but doesn't really clarify how > > > > exactly does this correlate with randomize_va_space == 2. Would you mind > > > > also fixing this bit? > > > > > > I hope I didn't misread the sources :-) Opinions? > > > > > > --- > > > > > > The documentation for /proc/sys/kernel/* does not mention the possible > > > value 2 for randomize-va-space yet. While being there, doing some > > > reformatting, fixing grammar problems and clarifying the correlations > > > between randomize-va-space, kernel parameter "norandmaps" and the > > > CONFIG_COMPAT_BRK option. > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Horst Schirmeier <horst@schirmeier.com> > > > > Acked-by: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz> > > > > Ingo, will you take this through your tree? > > > > > > > > --- > > > Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt | 30 +++++++++++++++++------------- > > > 1 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-) > > This could go to your or Randy's docs tree, right? (would be fine by > me) Sure, I basically just wanted your ACK, as you were the last one touching the respective code. I will queue it, thanks. -- Jiri Kosina SUSE Labs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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