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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	git-commits-head@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Exiting with locks still held (was Re: [PATCH] kmemleak: Fix scheduling-while-atomic bug)
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:04:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090703070456.GD32687@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1246538899.13320.86.camel@pc1117.cambridge.arm.com>


* Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:

> Hi Ingo,
> 
> On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 13:04 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
> > > Since we are at locking, I just noticed this on my x86 laptop when
> > > running cat /sys/kernel/debug/kmemleak (I haven't got it on an ARM
> > > board):
> > > 
> > > ================================================
> > > [ BUG: lock held when returning to user space! ]
> > > ------------------------------------------------
> > > cat/3687 is leaving the kernel with locks still held!
> > > 1 lock held by cat/3687:
> > > #0:  (scan_mutex){+.+.+.}, at: [<c01e0c5c>] kmemleak_open+0x3c/0x70
> > > 
> > > kmemleak_open() acquires scan_mutex and unconditionally releases 
> > > it in kmemleak_release(). The mutex seems to be released as a 
> > > subsequent acquiring works fine.
> > > 
> > > Is this caused just because cat may have exited without closing 
> > > the file descriptor (which should be done automatically anyway)?
> > 
> > This lockdep warning has a 0% false positives track record so 
> > far: all previous cases it triggered showed some real (and 
> > fatal) bug in the underlying code.
> 
> In this particular case, there is no fatal problem as the mutex is 
> released shortly after this message.

Maybe - but holding locks in user-space is almost always bad.

What happens if user-space opens a second file descriptor before 
closing the first one? We either lock up (which is bad and fatal) or 
you already have some _other_ exclusion mechanism that prevents this 
case, which calls into question the need to hold this particular 
mutex in user-space to begin with.

I've yet to see a valid 'need to hold this kernel lock in 
user-space' case, and this does not seem to be such a case either.

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-07-03  7:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200907010300.n6130rRf026194@hera.kernel.org>
2009-07-01  7:53 ` [PATCH] kmemleak: Fix scheduling-while-atomic bug Ingo Molnar
2009-07-01  8:10   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-07-01  9:18   ` Catalin Marinas
2009-07-01  9:30     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-01  9:46       ` Catalin Marinas
2009-07-01 11:04         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-02 12:48           ` Exiting with locks still held (was Re: [PATCH] kmemleak: Fix scheduling-while-atomic bug) Catalin Marinas
2009-07-02 12:54             ` Pekka Enberg
2009-07-02 13:06               ` Catalin Marinas
2009-07-02 14:13               ` Catalin Marinas
2009-07-02 17:39                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-03 10:18                   ` Catalin Marinas
2009-07-03  7:04             ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-07-02  9:48       ` [PATCH] kmemleak: Fix scheduling-while-atomic bug Catalin Marinas
2009-07-03  7:00         ` [PATCH] kmemleak: Mark nice +10 Ingo Molnar
2009-07-03  8:09           ` Catalin Marinas
2009-07-08 13:33       ` [PATCH] kmemleak: Fix scheduling-while-atomic bug Catalin Marinas
2009-08-23  2:48         ` Ming Lei
2009-08-23 14:59           ` Catalin Marinas
2009-08-24  0:10             ` Ming Lei
2009-08-24 10:02               ` ACPI scheduling while atomic (was: Re: [PATCH] kmemleak: Fix scheduling-while-atomic bug) Catalin Marinas

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