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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@gmail.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"tytso@mit.edu" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"elladan@eskimo.com" <elladan@eskimo.com>,
	"npiggin@suse.de" <npiggin@suse.de>,
	"Barnes, Jesse" <jesse.barnes@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Found the commit that causes the OOMs
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 18:51:58 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090705105158.GA1804@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090705193551.090E.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 07:38:54PM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > >> OK. thanks.
> > >> I plan to submit this patch after small more tests. it is useful for OOM analysis.
> > >
> > > It is also useful for throttling page reclaim.
> > >
> > > If more than half of the inactive pages in a zone are
> > > isolated, we are probably beyond the point where adding
> > > additional reclaim processes will do more harm than good.
> > 
> > Maybe we can try limiting the isolation phase of direct reclaims to
> > one per CPU?
> > 
> >         mutex_lock(per_cpu_lock);
> >         isolate_pages();
> >         shrink_page_list();
> >         put_back_pages();
> >         mutex_unlock(per_cpu_lock);
> > 
> > This way the isolated pages as well as major parts of direct reclaims
> > will be bounded by CPU numbers. The added overheads should be trivial
> > comparing to the reclaim costs.
> 
> hm, this idea makes performance degression on few CPU machine, I think.

Yes, this is also my big worry. But one possible workaround is to
allow N direct reclaims per CPU.

> e.g.
> if system have only one cpu and sysmtem makes lumpy reclaim, lumpy reclaim
> makes synchronous pageout and it makes very long waiting time.

We can temporarily drop the lock during the writeback waiting.
0-order reclaims shall not be blocked by ongoing high order reclaims.

> I suspect per-cpu decision is not useful in this area.

Maybe. I'm just proposing one more possible way to choose from :)

Thanks,
Fengguang


  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-05 10:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-17  2:23 [PATCH 0/3] make mapped executable pages the first class citizen Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17  2:23 ` [PATCH 1/3] vmscan: report vm_flags in page_referenced() Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17  2:23 ` [PATCH 2/3] vmscan: make mapped executable pages the first class citizen Wu Fengguang
2009-05-19  8:59   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-17  2:23 ` [PATCH 3/3] vmscan: merge duplicate code in shrink_active_list() Wu Fengguang
2009-05-18  9:16   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-19  2:43     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-19 10:18       ` Johannes Weiner
2009-05-19 10:32         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-18 14:46 ` [PATCH 0/3] make mapped executable pages the first class citizen David Howells
2009-06-19  5:24   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-19  5:58   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-19  8:06   ` David Howells
2009-06-18 14:51 ` David Howells
2009-06-18 16:18 ` David Howells
2009-06-18 16:57   ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-20  4:33     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-20  8:24     ` David Howells
2009-06-23 14:43     ` David Howells
2009-06-24  1:43       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-24  2:32       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-24  2:43         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-24  2:49           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-27 11:53           ` Johannes Weiner
2009-06-27 18:40           ` David Howells
2009-06-24 13:07       ` David Howells
2009-06-27  7:12       ` Found the commit that causes the OOMs David Howells
2009-06-27 12:07         ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-27 12:54         ` Johannes Weiner
2009-06-27 13:50           ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-27 15:36             ` Johannes Weiner
2009-06-28 16:53               ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-27 15:52           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-28 11:32           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-28 13:30             ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-28 13:36               ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-28 14:22                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-28 15:01                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-28 15:10                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-28 16:50                       ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-29  0:17                       ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-29  7:34                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 10:10                         ` David Howells
2009-06-29 12:55                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 14:21                           ` David Howells
2009-06-29 15:00                             ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-29 15:14                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 15:54                               ` David Howells
2009-06-29 15:56                                 ` David Woodhouse
2009-06-30 14:05                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-30 15:50                                     ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-01  2:30                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  1:18                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-01  2:13                                       ` Rik van Riel
2009-07-01  2:16                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  2:26                                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  2:51                                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-01  2:57                                             ` Rik van Riel
2009-07-01  4:06                                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  4:18                                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-01  4:25                                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-01  4:30                                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-01 11:27                                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-05  9:55                                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-05 10:38                                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-05 10:51                                                   ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2009-07-01  3:54                                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 16:07                               ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-30  4:07                                 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-30  9:22                                   ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-30  9:30                                     ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-30 14:00                                     ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-30 19:57                                 ` David Howells
2009-07-02  7:41                                   ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-02  7:44                                     ` Minchan Kim
2009-07-02 12:43                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-07-02 14:08                                       ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-29 15:27                             ` David Howells
2009-06-28 14:49               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-28 15:04                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-28 16:47                 ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-29  7:48                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-29  9:32                     ` Minchan Kim
2009-06-29 12:43                   ` David Howells
2009-06-29 12:59                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-29 16:57                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-29 18:54                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-29 19:08                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-27 18:35         ` David Howells
2009-06-27 18:58         ` David Howells
2009-06-28  7:55         ` David Howells
2009-06-19  5:27   ` [PATCH 0/3] make mapped executable pages the first class citizen Wu Fengguang

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