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From: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
To: "David P. Quigley" <dpquigl@tycho.nsa.gov>
Cc: jmorris@namei.org, sds@tycho.nsa.gov,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Security/sysfs: Enable security xattrs to be set on sysfs files, directories, and symlinks.
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:41:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090709204128.GA27638@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1247170786.4398.242.camel@localhost>

On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 04:19:45PM -0400, David P. Quigley wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 13:12 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 03:28:58PM -0400, David P. Quigley wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 10:52 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 01:13:33PM -0400, David P. Quigley wrote:
> > > > > The issue is that there really aren't any LSM hooks to accommodate that.
> > > > > I have a few LSM hooks for the Labeled NFS work which could be used for
> > > > > this but it still requires us to store the full xattr value somewhere
> > > > > and referencing it in the sysfs_dirent structure.
> > > > 
> > > > A void pointer would handle that properly, right?
> > > 
> > > A void pointer would suffice if we wanted to store the opaque blob. My
> > > argument is that storing that blob is too heavy weight memory wise.
> > 
> > You could use that void pointer to store your id with no memory
> > difference at all, so why would it be "heavy weight"?  It shoud be
> > identical, right?
> > 
> > thanks,
> > 
> > greg k-h
> 
> 
> Not quite. From the memory foot print inside sysfs_dirent it is the same
> (baring a pointer being 64-bit on certain platforms) however that
> pointer needs to be backed by something. The two current interfaces in
> LSM to set an inode security attribute is 1) the xattr, and 2) a secid.
> The issue is if we say some people can store the xattr and some can
> store a secid I then don't know what hook to call to set the security
> information on creation. Which basically boils down to if we have a void
> * in sysfs_dirent it has to be the same void * semantics already used
> which means it needs to have a string with the label backing it. This
> means in the SELinux case I'm now using memory for the string and the
> structure in the security server which is a waste. It seems to me though
> that It might be possible to make the size of the secid correspond to
> the size of a pointer so Casey can return the address of his string as
> the secid and we can return the secid. However, it still needs to have
> the semantics of the secid and not the opaque void *. 
> 
> I could be wrong about this but at the moment the mismatch of semantics
> between the two seem to be a problem. If I'm missing anything feel free
> to point it out.

No, that makes sense as well.  I'll let you and Casey work it out :)

good luck,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-09 20:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-08 17:28 [PATCH] Security/sysfs: Enable security xattrs to be set on sysfs files, directories, and symlinks David P. Quigley
2009-07-09  1:44 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-07-09 14:05   ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-09 14:49     ` Casey Schaufler
2009-07-09 14:56       ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-09 15:16       ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-09 15:16     ` Greg KH
2009-07-09 14:11   ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-09 17:26   ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-09 17:50     ` Greg KH
2009-07-09 19:32       ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-09 20:13         ` Greg KH
2009-07-10  3:25         ` Casey Schaufler
2009-07-13 15:07           ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-09 15:18 ` Greg KH
2009-07-09 17:13   ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-09 17:52     ` Greg KH
2009-07-09 19:28       ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-09 20:12         ` Greg KH
2009-07-09 20:19           ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-09 20:41             ` Greg KH [this message]
2009-07-14 16:37               ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-14 17:50                 ` Greg KH
2009-07-14 20:16                   ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-14 20:35                     ` Greg KH
2009-07-14 20:35                       ` David P. Quigley
     [not found] ` <m1r5wmnee0.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>
     [not found]   ` <1247498399.4398.259.camel@localhost>
2009-07-13 16:50     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-07-13 19:18       ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-14  0:29         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-07-14 13:55           ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-14  3:06         ` Casey Schaufler
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-07-15 13:48 David P. Quigley
2009-07-15 14:28 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-15 14:31 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-21 16:29 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-21 16:49   ` Greg KH
2009-07-21 16:34 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-21 17:01   ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-24  8:13     ` James Morris
2009-07-24 14:34       ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-24 14:54         ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-14  4:59 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-14 12:20   ` Stephen Smalley
2009-08-14 12:40     ` Stephen Smalley
2009-08-15  1:33       ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-17 12:01         ` Stephen Smalley
2009-08-15  1:19     ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-17 11:53       ` Stephen Smalley
2009-08-14 22:02   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-08-15  1:42     ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-15  2:15       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-08-15  4:56         ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-15  6:01           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-08-16 17:25             ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-20 13:18 ` David P. Quigley
2009-08-21  3:38   ` Casey Schaufler
2009-09-03 18:25 David P. Quigley

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