From: Henrik Austad <henrik@austad.us>
To: "James H. Anderson" <anderson@cs.unc.edu>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>, Raistlin <raistlin@linux.it>,
Douglas Niehaus <niehaus@ittc.ku.edu>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Bill Huey <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>,
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Fabio Checconi <fabio@gandalf.sssup.it>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ted Baker <baker@cs.fsu.edu>,
Dhaval Giani <dhaval.giani@gmail.com>,
Noah Watkins <jayhawk@soe.ucsc.edu>,
KUSP Google Group <kusp@googlegroups.com>,
Tommaso Cucinotta <cucinotta@sssup.it>,
Giuseppe Lipari <lipari@retis.sssup.it>,
Bjoern Brandenburg <bbb@cs.unc.edu>
Subject: Re: RFC for a new Scheduling policy/class in the Linux-kernel
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:28:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200907142128.48558.henrik@austad.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.00.0907141234280.16818@anderson.cs.unc.edu>
On Tuesday 14 July 2009 18:54:13 James H. Anderson wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > Hi Jim,
> >
> > On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 11:19 -0400, James H. Anderson wrote:
> >> The first email in this thread that I was cc'ed on talked about
> >> implementing global EDF,
> >
> > Hendrik says that its a modified Modified-Least-Laxity-First, so
> > something like M^2-LLF, and I cc'ed you (and I meant to add Bjorn too,
> > but now see I failed to actually do so) in the hope that you would have
> > some thoughts on his scheduling algorithm, since that is what you do a
> > lot of ;-)
> >
> > It could well be he modified M-LLF into G-EDF, but I'm behind in my
> > reading here, so I'll have to leave that up to others.
Using deadlines as the only measure on multi-core will fail as you must
consider time (of deadline-miss) in a different way.
In UP, this is given implicitly as you only have a single processor. In MC you
need to do this the hard way, namely compute the point in time not when the
task misses the deadline, but when it will *eventually* fail a dealine. By
doing that, you combine deadline, wcet and granted time in one variable, and
you have a *single* variable to compare.
By doing this in a global sense, you can avoid bin-packing, load-balancing and
a lot of the issues that seem to be keeping the PI-people busy. But I think
I'm going to stay away from that topic now (as I haven't had the time to give
those emails their deserved attention.
I think M^2-LLF would be as good a name as EFF, but I wanted to emphasize the
usage of the two failure-variables (the static and the dynamic).
> I meant to say something about this algorithm earlier that may be
> worthwhile. If I understand Hendrik's algorithm correctly, it falls
> within a class of global schedulers for which bounded deadline
> tardiness is guaranteed (as long as total utilization doesn't exceed
> the system's capacity).
the tardiness is either 0 or bounded, depending on what you want (and what you
will do with tasks that do miss their deadlines when they block on locks).
> This follows from results in:
>
> H. Leontyev and J. Anderson, "Generalized Tardiness Bounds for Global
> Multiprocessor Scheduling", Proceedings of the 28th IEEE Real-Time
> Systems Symposium, pp. 413-422, December 2007.
Is this available outside locked portals?
> This is a positive thing w.r.t. wanting to support soft real-time
> workloads. However, global EDF also has this property and (I would
> think) is easier to implement (I'm just guessing here -- we haven't
> actually implemented any algorithm that involves laxities in
> LITMUS^RT). Ted Baker did some work on an algorithm called EDZL
> (EDF until zero laxity) that is essentially a hybrid of these two
> algorithms. In simulations we've done (not based on real implementations),
> EDZL exhibits really low tardiness (almost non-existent). EDZL may
> give you the benefits of using laxities where useful and be easier
> to implement (but that's just my guess)
--
henrik
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-14 19:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-10 21:50 RFC for a new Scheduling policy/class in the Linux-kernel Henrik Austad
2009-07-11 18:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-12 2:40 ` Douglas Niehaus
2009-07-12 15:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-13 15:44 ` Raistlin
2009-07-13 16:33 ` Chris Friesen
2009-07-14 10:47 ` Raistlin
2009-07-14 11:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-14 18:19 ` Raistlin
2009-07-14 14:48 ` Chris Friesen
2009-07-14 15:19 ` James H. Anderson
2009-07-14 16:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-14 16:54 ` James H. Anderson
2009-07-14 19:28 ` Henrik Austad [this message]
2009-07-14 19:33 ` James H. Anderson
2009-07-15 21:53 ` Ted Baker
2009-07-17 7:40 ` Henrik Austad
2009-07-17 13:37 ` Ted Baker
2009-07-15 4:25 ` Bjoern B. Brandenburg
2009-07-15 20:55 ` Ted Baker
2009-07-15 21:53 ` Chris Friesen
2009-07-15 22:34 ` Ted Baker
2009-07-15 22:39 ` Dhaval Giani
2009-07-15 23:16 ` Ted Baker
2009-07-16 8:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-16 9:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-17 0:32 ` Raistlin
2009-07-17 0:43 ` Raistlin
2009-07-16 12:17 ` Raistlin
2009-07-16 23:29 ` Raistlin
2009-07-18 20:12 ` Michal Sojka
2009-07-14 17:16 ` James H. Anderson
2009-07-15 21:19 ` Ted Baker
2009-07-14 19:54 ` Raistlin
2009-07-14 16:48 ` Raistlin
2009-07-14 18:24 ` Chris Friesen
2009-07-14 19:14 ` Raistlin
2009-07-15 22:14 ` Ted Baker
2009-07-16 7:17 ` Henrik Austad
2009-07-16 23:13 ` Ted Baker
2009-07-17 0:19 ` Raistlin
2009-07-17 7:31 ` Henrik Austad
2009-07-16 14:46 ` Chris Friesen
2009-07-16 22:34 ` Ted Baker
2009-07-16 23:07 ` Raistlin
2009-07-15 21:45 ` Ted Baker
2009-07-15 22:12 ` Chris Friesen
2009-07-15 22:52 ` Ted Baker
2009-07-17 13:35 ` Giuseppe Lipari
2009-07-13 17:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-13 18:14 ` Noah Watkins
2009-07-13 20:13 ` Ted Baker
2009-07-13 21:45 ` Chris Friesen
2009-07-14 11:16 ` Raistlin
2009-07-15 23:11 ` Ted Baker
2009-07-16 7:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-16 8:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-07-16 12:17 ` Raistlin
2009-07-16 12:59 ` James H. Anderson
2009-07-16 13:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-16 22:15 ` Ted Baker
2009-07-16 22:34 ` Karthik Singaram Lakshmanan
2009-07-16 23:38 ` Ted Baker
2009-07-17 1:44 ` Karthik Singaram Lakshmanan
2009-07-16 15:17 ` Chris Friesen
2009-07-16 21:26 ` Ted Baker
2009-07-16 22:08 ` Chris Friesen
2009-07-16 23:54 ` Ted Baker
2009-07-14 9:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-14 19:07 ` Raistlin
2009-07-13 17:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-14 19:47 ` Raistlin
[not found] ` <002301ca0403$47f9d9d0$d7ed8d70$@tlh@comcast.net>
2009-07-13 23:47 ` Douglas Niehaus
2009-07-14 7:27 ` Chris Friesen
2009-07-14 7:44 ` Douglas Niehaus
2009-07-12 6:17 ` Henrik Austad
2009-07-13 9:55 ` Raistlin
2009-07-13 10:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-13 16:06 ` Raistlin
2009-07-14 8:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-14 9:36 ` Raistlin
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2009-07-16 17:54 Raj Rajkumar
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