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From: Kees Cook <kees@ubuntu.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	James Carter <jwcart2@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	spender@grsecurity.net, Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com>,
	cl@linux-foundation.org, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Chad Sellers <csellers@tresys.com>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	mingo@elte.hu
Subject: Re: mmap_min_addr and your local LSM (ok, just SELinux)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:56:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090728155622.GO7316@outflux.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zlapgo2u.fsf@basil.nowhere.org>

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:21:29AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:
> 
> > A dumb question perhaps, but while addling my brain over the tty layer I
> > was wondering if for the specific case of jump through NULL (which seems
> > to be the most common but by no means only problem case that gets
> > exploited) is there any reason we can't set a default breakpoint for
> 
> You mean a hardware breakpoint? Hardware break points are a precious
> scarce resource. The people who rely on them would be likely
> unhappy if you take one way from them.

Could the page table flags be used to mask this region?  i.e. force
PROT_NONE (with the "desired" flags stored elsewhere) and in the segv
handler check if it is kernel or user space, and then fix-up the flags and
continue if it's userspace?  (I really don't know the internals on this,
but it would need to restore PROT_NONE on task-switch or something...)

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook
Ubuntu Security Team

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-07-28 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-20 23:23 mmap_min_addr and your local LSM (ok, just SELinux) Eric Paris
2009-07-21  0:14 ` Christopher Pardy
2009-07-21 13:41   ` Daniel J Walsh
2009-07-21  3:45 ` James Morris
2009-07-21 14:44   ` James Carter
2009-07-22 10:06     ` James Morris
2009-07-28  0:19       ` Alan Cox
2009-07-28  3:28         ` Kyle Moffett
2009-07-28  9:21         ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-28 10:00           ` Alan Cox
2009-07-28 11:21             ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-28 13:35               ` Brad Spengler
2009-07-28 14:48                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-28 15:56           ` Kees Cook [this message]
2009-07-28 16:23             ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-21  3:48 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-07-21 11:51   ` Brad Spengler
2009-07-21  4:13 ` Kyle McMartin
2009-07-21 11:31   ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-07-30  9:06 ` Pavel Machek

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