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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: eranian@gmail.com, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Maynard Johnson <mpjohn@us.ibm.com>, Carl Love <cel@us.ibm.com>,
	Corey J Ashford <cjashfor@us.ibm.com>,
	Philip Mucci <mucci@eecs.utk.edu>,
	Dan Terpstra <terpstra@eecs.utk.edu>,
	perfmon2-devel <perfmon2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: perf_counters issue with self-sampling threads
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:17:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090729221703.GA25368@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1248869948.6987.3083.camel@twins>

(add Roland)

On 07/29, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 18:51 +0200, stephane eranian wrote:
> >
> > POSIX does not mandate that asynchronous signals be delivered
> > to the thread in which they originated. Any thread in the process
> > may process the signal, assuming it does not have the signal
> > blocked.

Yes. I now nothing about POSIX, but this is what Linux does at least.
I don't think we can/should change this behaviour.

> fcntl(2) for F_SETOWN says:
>
> If a non-zero value is given to F_SETSIG  in  a  multi‐ threaded
> process running with a threading library that supports thread groups
> (e.g., NPTL),  then  a  positive value  given  to  F_SETOWN  has  a
> different  meaning: instead of being a process ID identifying a whole
> pro‐ cess,  it  is a thread ID identifying a specific thread within a
> process.

Heh. Definitely this is not what Linux does ;)

> Which seems to imply that when we feed fcntl(F_SETOWN) a TID instead of
> a PID it should deliver SIGIO to the thread instead of the whole process
> -- which, to me, seems a sane semantic.

I am not sure I understand the man above... But to me it looks like we
should always send a private signal when fown->signum != 0 ?

The change should be simple, but as you pointed out we can break things.

Oleg.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-07-29 22:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-27 16:51 perf_counters issue with self-sampling threads stephane eranian
2009-07-27 16:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-27 21:25 ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]   ` <7c86c4470907272213w2ee57080re50dd22a4d73a7e0@mail.gmail.com>
2009-07-28  8:51     ` stephane eranian
2009-07-28  8:56       ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-28  9:13         ` stephane eranian
2009-08-04 16:09     ` stephane eranian
2009-07-29 12:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-29 12:37   ` stephane eranian
2009-07-29 12:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-29 22:17   ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-07-30 11:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-30 19:20       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-30 20:00         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-30 20:28           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-30 21:09             ` stephane eranian
2009-07-31  8:35             ` [RFC][PATCH] fcntl: F_[SG]ETOWN_TID Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-31 14:01               ` stephane eranian
2009-07-31 20:52               ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-31 21:11               ` Andrew Morton
2009-08-01  1:27                 ` [PATCH 0/2] send_sigio/do_send_sig_info (Was: [RFC][PATCH] fcntl: F_[SG]ETOWN_TID) Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-03 15:48                   ` [PATCH 3/2] fcntl: F_[SG]ETOWN_TID Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-03 17:16                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-03 17:47                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-03 18:06                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-03 18:36                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-03 19:02                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-04 11:39                               ` [PATCH 3/2 -v3] fcntl: F_[SG]ETOWN_EX Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-04 16:20                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-04 16:52                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-04 17:19                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-06 13:14                                       ` [PATCH 3/2 -v4] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 19:05                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-07 12:10                                           ` stephane eranian
2009-08-01  1:28                 ` [PATCH 1/2] signals: introduce do_send_sig_info() helper Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-01  1:28                 ` [PATCH 2/2] signals: send_sigio: use do_send_sig_info() to avoid check_kill_permission() Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-03 12:53                 ` [RFC][PATCH] fcntl: F_[SG]ETOWN_TID stephane eranian
2009-08-09  5:46                   ` F_SETOWN_TID: F_SETOWN was thread-specific for a while Jamie Lokier
2009-08-10 12:22                     ` stephane eranian
2009-08-10 17:03                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-10 21:01                         ` stephane eranian
2009-08-17 17:16                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-17 17:40                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-17 22:26                             ` stephane eranian
2009-08-18 11:45                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-20 10:00                                 ` stephane eranian
2009-08-11 13:10                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-17 17:05                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-03 15:21                 ` [RFC][PATCH] fcntl: F_[SG]ETOWN_TID Peter Zijlstra

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