From: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
To: Scott James Remnant <scott@ubuntu.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
earl_chew@agilent.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:50:05 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090802235004.GA11903@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1249220996.3638.0.camel@wing-commander>
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 02:49:56PM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 20:22 -0400, Neil Horman wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 07:28:52PM +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 09:41 -0400, Neil Horman wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > Not without additional work. If init crashed in the initramfs, I don't think
> > > > > > theres a way to handle that. If it crashes at some later time, I think it just
> > > > > > gets restarted IIRC. I'm sure you can change that behavior, but this patch
> > > > > > doesn't address that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > When the system init daemon crashes, the kernel PANICs. When not using
> > > > > core_pattern, this is ok, we get a core file - when using apport, as far
> > > > > as I can tell it never waits for apport to finish so we don't get the
> > > > > crash.
> > > > >
> > > > This is non-sensical. If init crashes, and the kernel panics, you'll only get a
> > > > core by sheer luck and good fortune.
> > > >
> > > Or by being a bit clever. Upstart catches the SIGSEGV and the signal
> > > handler forks a child process, unmasking the signal in that child
> > > process with no signal handler installed.
> > >
> > I don't see how this works. How is upstart (which by definition is a child of
> > init (pid 1)) going to catch a SIGSEGV from its parent? How would any process
> > catch a signal targeted to its parent?
> >
> Upstart *is* /sbin/init (pid 1)
>
Ah, so basically, you catch sigsegv, and in the handler fork a child, and return
from the handler in the pid, so that the child crashes. Yeah, I don't see why
that won't work with this patch. If pid 1 waits for its child to crash, then
you should serialize on the collection of the core via the pipe. Of couse, pid
1 will have to make sure that all the sysctls are set appropriately before it
encounters a crash.
Neil
> Scott
> --
> Scott James Remnant
> scott@ubuntu.com
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Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-22 17:28 [PATCH] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern Neil Horman
2009-06-25 23:30 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-26 1:49 ` Neil Horman
2009-06-26 10:48 ` Neil Horman
2009-06-26 16:20 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-26 17:30 ` Neil Horman
2009-06-28 19:31 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-28 20:52 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-28 21:00 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-28 21:18 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-28 21:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-28 21:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-28 21:48 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-28 22:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-29 9:15 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-28 21:52 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-26 18:00 ` Neil Horman
2009-06-26 18:02 ` [PATCH 1/2] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern: recursive dump detection Neil Horman
2009-06-26 16:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 20:24 ` Neil Horman
2009-06-26 19:14 ` [PATCH 0/2] do_coredump: misc cleanups Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 19:14 ` [PATCH 1/2] do_coredump: factor out put_cred() calls Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 22:40 ` Roland McGrath
2009-06-26 20:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 19:16 ` [PATCH 2/2] do_coredump: move !ispipe code into "else" branch Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 20:18 ` Q: do_coredump() && d_unhashed() Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 22:57 ` [PATCH 0/2] do_coredump: misc cleanups Neil Horman
2009-06-26 19:37 ` [PATCH 1/2] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern: recursive dump detection Andrew Morton
2009-06-26 20:17 ` Neil Horman
2009-06-26 18:03 ` [PATCH 2/2] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern: wait for core collectors Neil Horman
2009-06-26 16:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-26 20:20 ` Neil Horman
2009-06-29 0:33 ` [PATCH 1/2] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v3) Neil Horman
2009-06-29 0:35 ` [PATCH 2/2] " Neil Horman
2009-06-28 22:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-28 23:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-29 2:36 ` Neil Horman
2009-06-28 23:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-29 10:21 ` Neil Horman
2009-06-30 0:06 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-29 0:32 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Neil Horman
2009-06-30 17:38 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v4) Neil Horman
2009-06-30 17:42 ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v4) Neil Horman
2009-06-30 17:43 ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v4) Neil Horman
2009-06-30 17:46 ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v4) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 5:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-01 10:31 ` Neil Horman
2009-07-01 12:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-01 14:12 ` Neil Horman
2009-07-01 14:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-01 15:26 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v5) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 15:30 ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v5) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 15:34 ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v5) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 15:37 ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v5) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 16:06 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-01 18:19 ` Neil Horman
2009-07-01 18:28 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v6) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 18:31 ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v6) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 18:32 ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v6) Neil Horman
2009-07-01 18:37 ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v6) Neil Horman
2009-07-02 8:29 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-02 10:29 ` Neil Horman
2009-07-02 11:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-02 14:44 ` Neil Horman
2009-07-02 15:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-02 17:53 ` Neil Horman
2009-07-03 10:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-02 22:57 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v7) Neil Horman
2009-07-02 22:59 ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v7) Neil Horman
2009-07-02 23:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v7) Neil Horman
2009-07-02 23:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v7) Neil Horman
2009-07-03 10:16 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-03 10:44 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v8) Neil Horman
2009-07-03 10:50 ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v8) Neil Horman
2009-07-07 16:14 ` Neil Horman
2009-07-03 10:51 ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v8) Neil Horman
2009-07-07 16:15 ` Neil Horman
2009-07-03 10:52 ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v8) Neil Horman
2009-07-07 16:19 ` Neil Horman
2009-07-07 16:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-07 16:13 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v8) Neil Horman
2009-07-20 15:49 ` [PATCH 0/3] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern (v9) Neil Horman
2009-07-20 16:27 ` [PATCH 1/3] exec: Make do_coredump more resilient to recursive crashes (v9) Neil Horman
2009-07-20 16:29 ` [PATCH 2/3] exec: let do_coredump limit the number of concurrent dumps to pipes (v9) Neil Horman
2009-08-07 17:08 ` Randy Dunlap
2009-07-20 16:32 ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Allow do_coredump to wait for user space pipe readers to complete (v9) Neil Horman
2009-07-29 15:13 ` [PATCH] exec: Make do_coredump more robust and safer when using pipes in core_pattern Scott James Remnant
2009-07-29 20:18 ` Neil Horman
2009-07-31 20:20 ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-01 13:41 ` Neil Horman
2009-08-01 18:28 ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-02 0:22 ` Neil Horman
2009-08-02 13:49 ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-02 23:50 ` Neil Horman [this message]
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