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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
To: Benjamin Blum <bblum@google.com>
Cc: menage@google.com, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] Makes procs file writable to move all threads by tgid at once
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:45:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090803194555.GA10158@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090803185556.GA8469@us.ibm.com>

Quoting Serge E. Hallyn (serue@us.ibm.com):
> Quoting Benjamin Blum (bblum@google.com):
> > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Serge E. Hallyn<serue@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> > > Quoting Ben Blum (bblum@google.com):
> > > What *exactly* is it we are protecting with cgroup_fork_mutex?
> > > 'fork' (as the name implies) is not a good answer, since we should be
> > > protecting data, not code.  If it is solely tsk->cgroups, then perhaps
> > > we should in fact try switching to (s?)rcu.  Then cgroup_fork() could
> > > just do rcu_read_lock, while cgroup_task_migrate() would make the change
> > > under a spinlock (to protect against concurrent cgroup_task_migrate()s),
> > > and using rcu_assign_pointer to let cgroup_fork() see consistent data
> > > either before or after the update...  That might mean that any checks done
> > > before completing the migrate which involve the # of tasks might become
> > > invalidated before the migration completes?  Seems acceptable (since
> > > it'll be a small overcharge at most and can be quickly remedied).
> > 
> > You'll notice where the rwsem is released - not until cgroup_post_fork
> > or cgroup_fork_failed. It doesn't just protect the tsk->cgroups
> > pointer, but rather guarantees atomicity between adjusting
> > tsk->cgroups and attaching it to the cgroups lists with respect to the
> > critical section in attach_proc. If you've a better name for the lock
> > for such a race condition, do suggest.
> 
> No the name is pretty accurate - it's the lock itself I'm objecting
> to.  Maybe it's the best we can do, though.

This is probably a stupid idea, but...  what about having zero
overhead at clone(), and instead, at cgroup_task_migrate(),
dequeue_task()ing all of the affected threads for the duration of
the migrate?

/me prepares to be hit by blunt objects

-serge

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-03 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-31  1:51 [PATCH v2 0/6] CGroups: cgroup memberlist enhancement+fix Ben Blum
2009-07-31  1:51 ` [PATCH 1/6] Adds a read-only "procs" file similar to "tasks" that shows only unique tgids Ben Blum
2009-07-31  1:51 ` [PATCH 2/6] Ensures correct concurrent opening/reading of pidlists across pid namespaces Ben Blum
2009-07-31  1:51 ` [PATCH 3/6] Quick vmalloc vs kmalloc fix to the case where array size is too large Ben Blum
2009-07-31  1:51 ` [PATCH 4/6] Changes css_set freeing mechanism to be under RCU Ben Blum
2009-07-31  1:51 ` [PATCH 5/6] Lets ss->can_attach and ss->attach do whole threadgroups at a time Ben Blum
2009-08-03  2:22   ` Li Zefan
2009-08-04  0:35     ` Benjamin Blum
2009-07-31  1:51 ` [PATCH 6/6] Makes procs file writable to move all threads by tgid at once Ben Blum
2009-08-03  3:00   ` Li Zefan
2009-08-04  0:56     ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-04  1:05       ` Paul Menage
2009-08-04  1:11         ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-04  1:09       ` Li Zefan
2009-08-04  1:19         ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-04  1:45           ` Li Zefan
2009-08-04  1:55             ` Paul Menage
2009-08-03 17:54   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-08-03 18:07     ` Paul Menage
2009-08-03 18:13     ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-03 18:55       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-08-03 19:45         ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2009-08-03 19:55           ` Paul Menage
2009-08-04 14:01             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-08-04 21:40             ` Matt Helsley
2009-08-04 18:48           ` Paul Menage
2009-08-04 19:01             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-08-04 19:14             ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-04 19:28               ` Paul Menage
2009-08-05 10:20                 ` Louis Rilling
2009-08-05 16:11                   ` Paul Menage
2009-08-05 16:42                     ` Louis Rilling
2009-08-05 16:53                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06  0:01                       ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-06  9:58                         ` Louis Rilling
2009-08-06 10:04                           ` Louis Rilling
2009-08-06 10:28                           ` Paul Menage
2009-08-06 10:34                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 10:42                               ` Paul Menage
2009-08-06 11:02                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 11:24                                   ` Paul Menage
2009-08-06 11:39                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 15:19                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-08-06 15:24                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 15:37                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-08-06 11:24                             ` Louis Rilling
2009-08-06 11:40                               ` Paul Menage
2009-08-06 14:54                                 ` Louis Rilling
2009-08-08  1:41                                 ` Benjamin Blum
2009-08-08  1:51                                   ` Benjamin Blum

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