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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	Jan Blunck <jblunck@suse.de>,
	gregkh@suse.de, Harald Hoyer <harald@redhat.com>,
	Scott James Remnant <scott@ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Driver Core: devtmpfs - kernel-maintained tmpfs-based /dev
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:51:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090805185136.GA21442@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090805182805.GA7534@kroah.com>

On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 11:28:05AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 07:20:37PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:15:13 -0700
> > Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Here's the devtmpfs patch again.  For .32 it's a simple and clean patch.
> > 
> > You seem to have reposted it rather than anyone addressing any of the
> > complaints people made about ?
> > 
> > To quote Christoph
> > 
> > > What tree did you find with devtmpfs in it?  It was pretty clearly
> > > rejected when it came up.
> 
> That's not anything to address, what do you want me to say, "maple"?  :)
> 
> > and Arjan (who is doing about the fastest Linux boot anyone has and has
> > better data than anyone else)
> 
> We did this work based on Arjan's work.  It solves a problem that Moblin
> has as well, which is why Novell is using it for their Moblin-based
> images they are shipping.  It makes things go faster, with a simpler
> userspace codepath, and we have the numbers as have been previously
> posted.

And to expound on this a bit, it's not just about fast boot, although
this is a great benefit of this patch.

It makes the userspace boot process much simpler and easier to maintain,
as well as providing a way to handle rescue disks and images trivially,
and it makes the kernel _less_ dependant on the early userspace bootup
scripts.

And then there's the great reason Kay previously stated, "if sysfs has
all the names, numbers, and device properties, why would we need complex
userspace to have the nodes?"

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-05 18:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-05 17:15 [PATCH] Driver Core: devtmpfs - kernel-maintained tmpfs-based /dev Greg KH
2009-08-05 17:43 ` David Vrabel
2009-08-05 17:55   ` Greg KH
2009-08-05 18:20 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 18:28   ` Greg KH
2009-08-05 18:51     ` Greg KH [this message]
2009-08-06 15:46       ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-06 16:20         ` David Dillow
2009-08-06 17:10           ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-06 18:31           ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 15:47             ` Phil Turmel
2009-08-08 23:07             ` David Dillow
2009-08-10 15:39               ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 14:36                 ` David Dillow
2009-08-11 14:55                   ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-12  0:04                     ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-08-12  0:25                     ` David Dillow
2009-08-12  0:34                       ` Greg KH
2009-08-12  4:31                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-12 12:56                         ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 13:44                           ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 14:09                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-12 15:25                               ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 14:39                             ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 15:26                               ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 15:57                                 ` David Dillow
2009-08-12  7:31                       ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-12 12:50                         ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 14:07                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-12 14:14                           ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-10  9:04           ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-06 17:06         ` Al Boldi
2009-08-06 17:15           ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-06 17:27             ` Al Boldi
2009-08-06 17:31               ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-06 18:36           ` Greg KH
2009-08-06 20:18             ` Al Boldi
2009-08-06 20:49               ` Greg KH
2009-08-07  4:03                 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07  4:25                   ` Greg KH
2009-08-07  5:04                     ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07  5:20                       ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 12:49                         ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07 15:13                           ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 15:51                         ` Chris Friesen
2009-08-07 16:06                           ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-07 21:17                           ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07 22:24                             ` Greg KH
2009-08-08  9:14                               ` Al Boldi
2009-08-08 17:11                                 ` Greg KH
2009-08-08 18:55                                   ` Al Boldi
2009-08-10 15:40                                     ` Greg KH
2009-08-11  3:48                                       ` Al Boldi
2009-08-11  4:04                                         ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 15:18                                           ` Al Boldi
2009-08-11 15:49                                             ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 16:04                                               ` Chris Friesen
2009-08-11 16:51                                                 ` Greg KH
2009-08-12  4:25                                                   ` Al Boldi
2009-08-10  9:01               ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-10 12:05                 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-10 12:39                   ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-10  9:22               ` Harald Hoyer
2009-08-08 22:19     ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-05 20:55 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-08-06  0:06   ` Greg KH
2009-08-06  0:19     ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-07  0:27       ` Greg KH
2009-08-09 12:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-10 16:36   ` Greg KH
2009-08-10 15:54     ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-12  1:20       ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-12 21:33 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-08-12 22:08   ` Greg KH
2009-08-13  8:25   ` Xavier Bestel
2009-08-13  8:55     ` Robert Schwebel
2009-08-13  2:18 ` Ming Lei
2009-08-13  2:53   ` Greg KH

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