From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755298AbZHFMJ6 (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:09:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754825AbZHFMJ5 (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:09:57 -0400 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk ([78.32.30.218]:35692 "EHLO caramon.arm.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753640AbZHFMJ4 (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:09:56 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:08:26 +0100 From: Russell King To: Pavel Machek Cc: Erik Mouw , kernel list Subject: Re: linux-arm-kernel useless for development (was Re: Your message to Linux-arm-kernel awaits moderator approval) Message-ID: <20090806120826.GC27773@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> References: <20090804100051.GA17106@elf.ucw.cz> <20090804223922.GD18365@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20090806125751.7d0253ce@nij0285> <20090806113104.GK31370@elf.ucw.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090806113104.GK31370@elf.ucw.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 01:31:04PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > > > > > Please fix your mailinglist. > > > > > > > > You claimed that it is possible to crosspost between lkml and lakml, > > > > yet the lakml does everything to prevent that -- even in case as > > > > simple as reporting that regression that affects arm. > > > > > > > > Please fix it. > > > > It is indeed possible to cross post between lkml and lakml. The easiest > > way to do that is to subscribe to the list and tell Mailman that you > > don't want to receive any messages. > > Actually I'm subscribed, but I still have far too many problems. > > Due to the approval process, I don't think you'll ever have a spammer > on lakml... can the mail size + #of people in to/cc list simply be > increased to lkml levels? The mail size is currently 100K, having been recently increased. I believe this is a sane limit. The number of people is 15, which is probably a little low. I've already explained my personal position over that limit concerning requests from you. Erik's position may be different. > > When I get such a Mailman message from a list I just shrug. The > > moderator will take care eventually and if he rejects it I don't care. > > Suggest you try to do the same, there are may more important things > > than a message that doesn't get it to a list. > > Well, I'd say that mailing list is pretty vital for Linux-style > development, and those rejects are simply far too frequent. This is the first time in at least one month that anything from you has been held according to the logs. If I look at my mailbox which has 3400+ messages from the list since 1st June, you have sent 78 messages, only one of which was held. I think you need to develop a realistic sense of proportion. -- Russell King Linux kernel 2.6 ARM Linux - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ maintainer of: