From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
Cc: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
Jan Blunck <jblunck@suse.de>,
gregkh@suse.de, Harald Hoyer <harald@redhat.com>,
Scott James Remnant <scott@ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Driver Core: devtmpfs - kernel-maintained tmpfs-based /dev
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:11:24 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090808171124.GA357@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200908081214.39456.a1426z@gawab.com>
On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 12:14:39PM +0300, Al Boldi wrote:
> Greg KH wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 12:17:31AM +0300, Al Boldi wrote:
> > > For devtmpfs to be a realistic replacement for static /dev, it has to
> > > be comparable to static /dev in both speed and size.
> >
> > Since when is this requirement necessary? You want something for free
> > in both speed and size? Well, you got it in speed, but not size, it
> > will take up memory that is swapable, and a tiny ammount of non-swapable
> > kernel memory for the code.
>
> Not so tiny when you count in the hotplug dependency.
devtmpfs does not rely on hotplug at all.
> > > WRT speed, there should be no slowdown and it should be just as fast
> > > as a "tar -xp < dev.tar".
> >
> > Again, where is this requirement coming from?
> >
> > Have you timed devtmpfs?
>
> Not yet, I am still waiting for the latest patch against .30.
I already pointed you at it.
> > > WRT size, it should not be dependent on hotplug, and instead offer
> > > hotplug as an option.
> >
> > Um, again, who made up such a requirement? Are you running systems
> > today with CONFIG_HOTPLUG disabled? If so, how well is that working for
> > you?
>
> It's working out quite well. I don't like hotplug, it's too slow. I always
> turn it and module-autoloading off, to achieve a much more responsive system.
What becomes "more responsive"? What is too slow?
Anyway, this is quite off-topic for the original patch. If you have
problems/issues with udev and CONFIG_HOTPLUG, let's take that to the
linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org list.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-08 17:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-05 17:15 [PATCH] Driver Core: devtmpfs - kernel-maintained tmpfs-based /dev Greg KH
2009-08-05 17:43 ` David Vrabel
2009-08-05 17:55 ` Greg KH
2009-08-05 18:20 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 18:28 ` Greg KH
2009-08-05 18:51 ` Greg KH
2009-08-06 15:46 ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-06 16:20 ` David Dillow
2009-08-06 17:10 ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-06 18:31 ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 15:47 ` Phil Turmel
2009-08-08 23:07 ` David Dillow
2009-08-10 15:39 ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 14:36 ` David Dillow
2009-08-11 14:55 ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-12 0:04 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-08-12 0:25 ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 0:34 ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 4:31 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-12 12:56 ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 13:44 ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 14:09 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-12 15:25 ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 14:39 ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 15:26 ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 15:57 ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 7:31 ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-12 12:50 ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 14:07 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-12 14:14 ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-10 9:04 ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-06 17:06 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-06 17:15 ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-06 17:27 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-06 17:31 ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-06 18:36 ` Greg KH
2009-08-06 20:18 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-06 20:49 ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 4:03 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07 4:25 ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 5:04 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07 5:20 ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 12:49 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07 15:13 ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 15:51 ` Chris Friesen
2009-08-07 16:06 ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-07 21:17 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07 22:24 ` Greg KH
2009-08-08 9:14 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-08 17:11 ` Greg KH [this message]
2009-08-08 18:55 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-10 15:40 ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 3:48 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-11 4:04 ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 15:18 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-11 15:49 ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 16:04 ` Chris Friesen
2009-08-11 16:51 ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 4:25 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-10 9:01 ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-10 12:05 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-10 12:39 ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-10 9:22 ` Harald Hoyer
2009-08-08 22:19 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-05 20:55 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-08-06 0:06 ` Greg KH
2009-08-06 0:19 ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-07 0:27 ` Greg KH
2009-08-09 12:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-10 16:36 ` Greg KH
2009-08-10 15:54 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-12 1:20 ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-12 21:33 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-08-12 22:08 ` Greg KH
2009-08-13 8:25 ` Xavier Bestel
2009-08-13 8:55 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-08-13 2:18 ` Ming Lei
2009-08-13 2:53 ` Greg KH
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