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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: David Dillow <dave@thedillows.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	Jan Blunck <jblunck@suse.de>, Harald Hoyer <harald@redhat.com>,
	Scott James Remnant <scott@ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Driver Core: devtmpfs - kernel-maintained tmpfs-based /dev
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:31:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090811213128.2f2a3093@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090812003433.GA25392@kroah.com>

On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:34:33 -0700
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 08:25:27PM -0400, David Dillow wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 16:55 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > > No, not really. It isn't hard to make a static /dev, or a
> > > > rescue initrd for the cases with dynamic device numbers.
> > > 
> > > There's a world between strictly controlled embedded and fully
> > > general distributions.
> > 
> > Sure, and I've acknowledged that. But it doesn't mean this needs a
> > kernel solution.
> > 
> > > I want a dynamic /dev, but a fast one that doesn't need initrd or
> > > slows down booting.
> > 
> > So use Eric/Arjan's program that does it in 60ms -- you get a
> > dynamic /dev, no initrd, fast boot, and no kernel changes required.
> 
> Their program only handles it for a reconstruction of /dev based on
> sysfs one time at boot.  It does not handle things that are added or
> discovered by the system after that, you need udev for that.
> 
> So it's a great hack for boot time stuff, but not a complete /dev
> management replacement 

yeah you want udev for that anyway for various reasons...
(not that udev is expensive per se, the expensive part of it is the exec
of modprobe a hundred times... beyond that udev seems pretty cheap to
me)



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  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-12  4:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-05 17:15 [PATCH] Driver Core: devtmpfs - kernel-maintained tmpfs-based /dev Greg KH
2009-08-05 17:43 ` David Vrabel
2009-08-05 17:55   ` Greg KH
2009-08-05 18:20 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-05 18:28   ` Greg KH
2009-08-05 18:51     ` Greg KH
2009-08-06 15:46       ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-06 16:20         ` David Dillow
2009-08-06 17:10           ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-06 18:31           ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 15:47             ` Phil Turmel
2009-08-08 23:07             ` David Dillow
2009-08-10 15:39               ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 14:36                 ` David Dillow
2009-08-11 14:55                   ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-12  0:04                     ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-08-12  0:25                     ` David Dillow
2009-08-12  0:34                       ` Greg KH
2009-08-12  4:31                         ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2009-08-12 12:56                         ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 13:44                           ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 14:09                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-12 15:25                               ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 14:39                             ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 15:26                               ` Greg KH
2009-08-12 15:57                                 ` David Dillow
2009-08-12  7:31                       ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-12 12:50                         ` David Dillow
2009-08-12 14:07                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-12 14:14                           ` Andi Kleen
2009-08-10  9:04           ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-06 17:06         ` Al Boldi
2009-08-06 17:15           ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-06 17:27             ` Al Boldi
2009-08-06 17:31               ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-06 18:36           ` Greg KH
2009-08-06 20:18             ` Al Boldi
2009-08-06 20:49               ` Greg KH
2009-08-07  4:03                 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07  4:25                   ` Greg KH
2009-08-07  5:04                     ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07  5:20                       ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 12:49                         ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07 15:13                           ` Greg KH
2009-08-07 15:51                         ` Chris Friesen
2009-08-07 16:06                           ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-07 21:17                           ` Al Boldi
2009-08-07 22:24                             ` Greg KH
2009-08-08  9:14                               ` Al Boldi
2009-08-08 17:11                                 ` Greg KH
2009-08-08 18:55                                   ` Al Boldi
2009-08-10 15:40                                     ` Greg KH
2009-08-11  3:48                                       ` Al Boldi
2009-08-11  4:04                                         ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 15:18                                           ` Al Boldi
2009-08-11 15:49                                             ` Greg KH
2009-08-11 16:04                                               ` Chris Friesen
2009-08-11 16:51                                                 ` Greg KH
2009-08-12  4:25                                                   ` Al Boldi
2009-08-10  9:01               ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-10 12:05                 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-10 12:39                   ` Scott James Remnant
2009-08-10  9:22               ` Harald Hoyer
2009-08-08 22:19     ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-08-05 20:55 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-08-06  0:06   ` Greg KH
2009-08-06  0:19     ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-07  0:27       ` Greg KH
2009-08-09 12:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-10 16:36   ` Greg KH
2009-08-10 15:54     ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-12  1:20       ` Kay Sievers
2009-08-12 21:33 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-08-12 22:08   ` Greg KH
2009-08-13  8:25   ` Xavier Bestel
2009-08-13  8:55     ` Robert Schwebel
2009-08-13  2:18 ` Ming Lei
2009-08-13  2:53   ` Greg KH

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