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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
Cc: linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [RFC] usb: Add support for runtime power management of the hcd
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:30:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090813123034.GA25770@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200908131416.42189.oliver@neukum.org>

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 02:16:41PM +0200, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 13. August 2009 02:35:44 schrieb Matthew Garrett:
> 
> > The power savings from this are measurable but not huge - it still seems
> 
> How large?

About 0.2W on an ich9 system.

> > like a decent optimisation. The main problem is that BIOS bugs on some
> > Dell laptops will kill USB if this is used, so we either default to off
> > or add some quirks to handle that case (I have some ideas in that
> > respect).
> 
> Your earlier failures don't look promising regarding BIOSes.
> What do you have in mind?

They range from pragmatic to ugly. We could blacklist all Dells, though 
I'm trying to find out if there's a BIOS date that guarantees the system 
is fixed. Alternatively, it's a single-line bug in the DSDT - we could 
implement some kind of fixup in the ACPI parsing code. I find the latter 
interesting but possibly too hideous to live :)

> > @@ -1968,6 +1972,9 @@ struct usb_hcd *usb_create_hcd (const struct
> > hc_driver *driver, INIT_WORK(&hcd->wakeup_work, hcd_resume_work);
> >  #endif
> >
> > +	pm_runtime_enable(dev);
> 
> So you don't get a reference from that?

No, but...

> > +	pm_runtime_get(dev);
> 
> What happens if you get a runtime suspend request in between? Is this a flaw
> of the API?

I suspect that just swapping the order of those two lines would be fine.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-13 12:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-08 14:25 [PATCH] PM: Introduce core framework for run-time PM of I/O devices (rev. 14) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-09 21:13 ` [PATCH update] PM: Introduce core framework for run-time PM of I/O devices (rev. 15) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-12 10:37   ` Magnus Damm
2009-08-12 15:47     ` Alan Stern
2009-08-12 20:13     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-13  0:29   ` [RFC] PCI: Runtime power management Matthew Garrett
2009-08-13  0:35     ` [RFC] usb: Add support for runtime power management of the hcd Matthew Garrett
2009-08-13 12:16       ` [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2009-08-13 12:30         ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2009-08-13 14:26           ` Oliver Neukum
2009-08-13 21:42             ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-13 15:22       ` Alan Stern
2009-08-13 21:47         ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-13 15:17     ` [RFC] PCI: Runtime power management Alan Stern
2009-08-13 21:47       ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-14 12:30         ` [linux-pm] " Matthew Garrett
2009-08-14 14:43           ` Alan Stern
2009-08-14 17:05             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-14 17:13               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-14 19:01                 ` Alan Stern
2009-08-14 20:05             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-14 22:21               ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-15 14:18                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-15 15:53                   ` Alan Stern
2009-08-15 20:54                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-15 20:58                       ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-15 21:21                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-15 21:27                           ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-15 21:44                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-16 16:09                               ` Alan Stern
2009-08-16 15:57                           ` Alan Stern
2009-08-16 16:04                             ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-16 15:50                       ` Alan Stern
2009-08-14 17:37     ` Jesse Barnes
2009-08-14 19:15       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-14 21:22     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-14 22:30       ` Matthew Garrett
2009-08-15 14:41         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-15 15:24           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-13 20:56   ` [PATCH update 2x] PM: Introduce core framework for run-time PM of I/O devices (rev. 16) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-13 21:03     ` Paul Mundt
2009-08-13 21:14       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-14  9:08     ` Magnus Damm
2009-08-14 17:19       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-14 17:25     ` [PATCH update 3x] PM: Introduce core framework for run-time PM of I/O devices (rev. 17) Rafael J. Wysocki

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