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From: Daniel Silverstone <dsilvers@simtec.co.uk>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Daniel Mack <daniel@caiaq.de>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk,
	David John <davidjon@xenontk.org>, Erik Mouw <mouw@nl.linux.org>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@vger.kernel.org" to ARM sections
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:01:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090814100100.GA25584@digital-scurf.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090814091808.GA2662@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:18:08AM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> These lists are getting close to me just pulling the plug on them.  The
> amount of crap flying around about them is getting too great for me to
> continue to provide such a service to this community.  When I pull them,
> I'll pull *all* the linux-arm related lists.
> Someone else can provide and run the mailing lists.
> I estimate that this will happen this evening.  Really.  Because I don't
> see this thread settling down.

While I appreciate that this is possibly too little too late, for what it's
worth I personally appreciate all the effort you put into the ARM-Linux lists,
and I think it would be a great shame to let them turn into the free-for-all
bunfight which we know will happen if you relinquish the control you hold.

Linux-ARM-Kernel is the only Linux-related mailing list I have left which isn't
running on a host I have to whitelist through all of my spam-checking because
the lists are so spam-friendly that if I try and spam-check them, I get kicked
off for rejecting too much of the mail.

I dread to think what will happen to the quality of the code if the vendors are
left to push whatever they like into the core.  Heck, even the long-term
subsystem or arch/mach maintainers sometimes need a push in the right
direction, and I doubt that such information and impetus would make it to them
if the lists were not well managed.

For my $0.02, I hope you find it in you to be able to continue managing the
lists as they are, and I am sorry for not piping up a bit earlier.

Regards,

Daniel.

-- 
Daniel Silverstone                              http://www.simtec.co.uk/


  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-14 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.3653.1249217530.31043.linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk>
2009-08-04 10:00 ` linux-arm-kernel useless for development (was Re: Your message to Linux-arm-kernel awaits moderator approval) Pavel Machek
2009-08-04 22:28   ` Russell King
2009-08-06 10:07     ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-06 10:44       ` Russell King
2009-08-06 11:02         ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-06 11:55           ` Russell King
2009-08-14 11:06             ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-06 12:04           ` Erik Mouw
2009-08-14 11:07             ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-04 22:39   ` Russell King
2009-08-06 10:57     ` Erik Mouw
2009-08-06 11:31       ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-06 12:08         ` Russell King
2009-08-06 12:29           ` David John
2009-08-06 12:40             ` Russell King
2009-08-06 13:02               ` Joe Perches
2009-08-06 13:33                 ` Russell King
2009-08-06 13:52                   ` David John
2009-08-06 14:23                   ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@vger.kernel.org" to ARM sections Joe Perches
2009-08-06 15:03                     ` Ben Dooks
2009-08-06 15:14                       ` Joe Perches
2009-08-06 15:23                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-06 16:18                       ` Joe Perches
2009-08-06 16:40                         ` Russell King
2009-08-06 16:53                           ` Joe Perches
2009-08-08 10:55                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-10 23:49                       ` Joe Perches
2009-08-11 10:33                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-08-12 11:55                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-12 19:48                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-12 20:17                             ` Pekka Enberg
2009-08-12 21:25                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-12 22:00                                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-12 22:43                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-12 22:04                                 ` David Miller
2009-08-13  1:18                                 ` Joe Perches
2009-08-13  7:38                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13  8:59                                     ` Joe Perches
2009-08-14  0:58                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-14  5:15                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-08-13  9:35                                 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-13  9:47                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13  9:54                                     ` Alan Cox
2009-08-13  9:58                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13 10:12                                         ` Alan Cox
2009-08-13 10:02                                     ` Pekka Enberg
2009-08-13 10:16                                     ` Joe Perches
2009-08-13 10:35                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13 11:01                                         ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Change ARM "subscriber-only" lists to "moderated for non-subscribers" Joe Perches
2009-08-13 13:18                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13 11:08                                         ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@vger.kernel.org" to ARM sections Joe Perches
2009-08-13 11:54                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13 12:16                                             ` Joe Perches
2009-08-13 13:17                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13 13:33                                             ` Catalin Marinas
2009-08-13 21:07                                             ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-14  7:59                                             ` Daniel Mack
2009-08-14  9:18                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-14 10:01                                                 ` Daniel Silverstone [this message]
2009-08-14 16:39                                                   ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@vger.kernel.org" to ARMsections H Hartley Sweeten
2009-08-14 10:01                                                 ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@vger.kernel.org" to ARM sections Catalin Marinas
2009-08-14 15:47                                                   ` Kevin Hilman
2009-08-14 11:25                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-14 11:18                                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-14 11:16                                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-14 19:37                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-14 20:43                                         ` Joe Perches
2009-08-12 22:01                             ` David Miller
2009-08-12 23:04                             ` Catalin Marinas
2009-08-12 23:22                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13  0:48                                 ` Marek Vasut
2009-08-08 10:45                   ` linux-arm-kernel useless for development (was Re: Your message to Linux-arm-kernel awaits moderator approval) Pavel Machek
2009-08-08 10:42                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-06 13:17               ` David John
2009-08-06 12:15         ` Erik Mouw
2009-08-08 10:40           ` Pavel Machek

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