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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Erik Mouw <mouw@nl.linux.org>
Cc: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	davem@davemloft.net
Subject: Re: linux-arm-kernel useless for development (was Re: Your message to Linux-arm-kernel awaits moderator approval)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:07:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090814110759.GF32418@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090806140451.0ef85619@nij0285>


> > > (c) you really don't understand that "held for moderation" is *not*
> > > rejection, but merely a case of mailman spotting something it
> > > doesn't like and letting a *human* deal with it rather than
> > > out-right rejecting it.
> > 
> > For lakml, held for moderation _does_ mean it will return with
> > "posting rejected: no reason given" in few days. I have never seen any
> > other result, and have got perfectly reasonable messages rejected with
> > "no reason". So no, I do not believe there's cooperative human being
> > moderating lakml.
> 
> That's not true. For every message I reject I always explain the
> reason. Most of the time it is "Please subcribe before you're allowed to
> post".

So... is subscribing required for posting or not? You and Russell seem
to be confused on that. If not, when it stopped being required?
Because Russell seems to imply that that requirement was dropped some
time ago.

> > > I wonder, do you even know what happened to the message you're
> > > whinging about?  Would you prefer that your message was silently
> > > dropped into /dev/null instead of having a chance of the issue
> > > being resolved?  It strikes me that _that_ would be a better
> > > solution than all your whinging.
> > 
> > So... your solution to broken mailing list is to silence everyone who
> > complains?
> 
> No, if you asked us in private, it would already be solved. I just
> increased the max_num_recipients from the default 15 to 30. That should
> solve your problem.

Thanks.
									Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-14 11:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.3653.1249217530.31043.linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk>
2009-08-04 10:00 ` linux-arm-kernel useless for development (was Re: Your message to Linux-arm-kernel awaits moderator approval) Pavel Machek
2009-08-04 22:28   ` Russell King
2009-08-06 10:07     ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-06 10:44       ` Russell King
2009-08-06 11:02         ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-06 11:55           ` Russell King
2009-08-14 11:06             ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-06 12:04           ` Erik Mouw
2009-08-14 11:07             ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-08-04 22:39   ` Russell King
2009-08-06 10:57     ` Erik Mouw
2009-08-06 11:31       ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-06 12:08         ` Russell King
2009-08-06 12:29           ` David John
2009-08-06 12:40             ` Russell King
2009-08-06 13:02               ` Joe Perches
2009-08-06 13:33                 ` Russell King
2009-08-06 13:52                   ` David John
2009-08-06 14:23                   ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@vger.kernel.org" to ARM sections Joe Perches
2009-08-06 15:03                     ` Ben Dooks
2009-08-06 15:14                       ` Joe Perches
2009-08-06 15:23                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-06 16:18                       ` Joe Perches
2009-08-06 16:40                         ` Russell King
2009-08-06 16:53                           ` Joe Perches
2009-08-08 10:55                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-10 23:49                       ` Joe Perches
2009-08-11 10:33                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-08-12 11:55                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-12 19:48                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-12 20:17                             ` Pekka Enberg
2009-08-12 21:25                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-12 22:00                                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-12 22:43                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-12 22:04                                 ` David Miller
2009-08-13  1:18                                 ` Joe Perches
2009-08-13  7:38                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13  8:59                                     ` Joe Perches
2009-08-14  0:58                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-14  5:15                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-08-13  9:35                                 ` Alan Cox
2009-08-13  9:47                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13  9:54                                     ` Alan Cox
2009-08-13  9:58                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13 10:12                                         ` Alan Cox
2009-08-13 10:02                                     ` Pekka Enberg
2009-08-13 10:16                                     ` Joe Perches
2009-08-13 10:35                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13 11:01                                         ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Change ARM "subscriber-only" lists to "moderated for non-subscribers" Joe Perches
2009-08-13 13:18                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13 11:08                                         ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@vger.kernel.org" to ARM sections Joe Perches
2009-08-13 11:54                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13 12:16                                             ` Joe Perches
2009-08-13 13:17                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13 13:33                                             ` Catalin Marinas
2009-08-13 21:07                                             ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-14  7:59                                             ` Daniel Mack
2009-08-14  9:18                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-14 10:01                                                 ` Daniel Silverstone
2009-08-14 16:39                                                   ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@vger.kernel.org" to ARMsections H Hartley Sweeten
2009-08-14 10:01                                                 ` [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add "L: linux-arm@vger.kernel.org" to ARM sections Catalin Marinas
2009-08-14 15:47                                                   ` Kevin Hilman
2009-08-14 11:25                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-14 11:18                                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-14 11:16                                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-14 19:37                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-14 20:43                                         ` Joe Perches
2009-08-12 22:01                             ` David Miller
2009-08-12 23:04                             ` Catalin Marinas
2009-08-12 23:22                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-13  0:48                                 ` Marek Vasut
2009-08-08 10:45                   ` linux-arm-kernel useless for development (was Re: Your message to Linux-arm-kernel awaits moderator approval) Pavel Machek
2009-08-08 10:42                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-06 13:17               ` David John
2009-08-06 12:15         ` Erik Mouw
2009-08-08 10:40           ` Pavel Machek

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