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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Nadia Derbey <Nadia.Derbey@bull.net>,
	Pierre Peiffer <peifferp@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [patch 4a/4] ipc: sem optimise simple operations
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 06:53:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090816045316.GA11115@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A86E30E.8030208@colorfullife.com>

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 06:32:14PM +0200, Manfred Spraul wrote:
> On 08/15/2009 04:49 PM, Nick Piggin wrote:
> >
> >I don't see how you've argued that yours is better.
> >
> >   

OK, but I'll add some context too.

> Lower number of new code lines,

Downside is you further complicate the already complex path.

> Lower total code size increase.

Downside is simple ops run in the complex path too so icache
footprint could be higher

> Lower number of seperate codepaths.

But they are independently all simpler. Combining them doesn't
add copmlexity together.

> Lower runtime memory consumption.

I'll fix this with hlists.

> Two seperate patches for the two algorithm improvements.
> 
> The main advantage of your version is that you optimize more cases.

And it is simpler.

> >If you are worried about memory consumption, we can add _rcu variants
> >to hlists and use them.
> There is no need for _rcu, the whole code runs under a spinlock.

Ah, yeah I was thinking of the undo list I think. Great then that
wil lbe easy.

> Thus the wait_for_zero queue could be converted to a hlist immediately.

Both queues can be.

> 
> Hmm: Did you track my proposals for your version?
> 
> - exit_sem() is not a hot path.
> I would propose to tread every exit_sem as update_queue, not an 
> update_queue_simple for every individual UNDO.

I don't think it matters too much, but ok. 

> - create an unlink_queue() helper that contains the updates to q->lists 
> and sma->complex_count.
> Three copies ask for errors.

Yes this is a good idea.

> - now: use a hlist for the zero queue.
> 
> >  And if you are worried about text size, then
> >I would bet my version actually uses less icache in the case of
> >simple ops being used.
> >   
> It depends. After disabling inlining, including all helper functions 
> that differ:
> 
> My proposal: 301 bytes for update_queue.
> 
> "simple", only negv: 226 bytes
> "simple, negv+zero: 354 bytes
> simple+complex: 526 bytes.
> 
> Thus with only +-1 simple ops, your version uses less icache. If both 
> +-1 and 0 ops are used, your version uses more icache.

I'll get rid of some of the BUG_ONs too, they're mostly there just
to verify correctness when I was developing it.

> Could you please send me your benchmark app?

Yeah I'll dig it out. It iterally was just lock, spin, unlock with
lots of processes.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-16  4:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-14 19:16 [PATCH] [patch 4a/4] ipc: sem optimise simple operations Manfred Spraul
2009-08-15  4:52 ` Nick Piggin
2009-08-15 10:10   ` Manfred Spraul
2009-08-15 10:38     ` Nick Piggin
     [not found]       ` <4A86ABF0.2070207@colorfullife.com>
2009-08-15 14:49         ` Nick Piggin
2009-08-15 16:32           ` Manfred Spraul
2009-08-16  4:53             ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2009-08-16  5:12               ` Nick Piggin
2009-08-16 10:31             ` Nick Piggin
2009-08-16 11:29               ` Manfred Spraul
2009-08-17  6:44                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-08-17 13:02                   ` Manfred Spraul
2009-08-17 13:10                     ` Nick Piggin

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