From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
To: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: clocksource changes in 2.6.31 - possible regression
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:27:04 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090817112704.2b4b2987@nehalam> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1250532954.26171.35.camel@work-vm>
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:15:54 -0700
john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 11:01 -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:48:57 -0700
> > john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 09:03 -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > > > The following commit causes a change for kernels built with HRT but
> > > > not actually using HRT. I typically use the generic kernel we ship
> > > > on test machines, and that kernel has NOHZ and HRT (for power savings/virt
> > > > and HRT for QoS), but I want to be able to enable TSC as a clock source
> > > > when doing performance tests with pktgen.
> > > >
> > > > The machine in question is a several year old Opteron box, that
> > > > normally reports clocksources: acpi_pm jiffies tsc
> > > > but now with 2.6.31-rc6, it only has acpi_pm.
> > >
> > > I might need to review the patch again, but I believe we just don't
> > > allow you to switch to non HRT compatible clocksources (like jiffies) if
> > > we're already in HRT mode (and thus would hang when switched).
> > >
> > >
> > > The behavior you describe where you can't switch to the TSC, may be due
> > > to the TSC disqualification code marking it as non HRT compatible
> > > (again, I need to double check). While I'm not sure that's really
> > > correct, as the TSC is fine for HRT, in this case on your box, the TSC
> > > has been marked as unstable (likely due to being unsynced on old AMD SMP
> > > systems). There is a real chance that the timekeeping code on your
> > > system could see the TSC go backwards, calculate a negative time
> > > interval, and then end up hanging.
> > >
> >
> > TSC was alway stable on this box, and worked fine. There was no
> > message in log about TSC instability. The change was bisected
> > down to that one commit.
>
> But just to clarify, the TSC was never selected as the default
> clocksource on the box either, right?
correct.
I am okay with turning it off on boot command line for my tests,
but it might be an issue for other users.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-17 18:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-17 16:03 clocksource changes in 2.6.31 - possible regression Stephen Hemminger
2009-08-17 17:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-08-17 17:48 ` john stultz
2009-08-17 18:01 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-08-17 18:15 ` john stultz
2009-08-17 18:27 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2009-08-17 18:34 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-08-17 19:54 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-08-17 20:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-08-17 20:27 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-08-17 20:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-08-17 21:10 ` john stultz
2009-08-17 21:37 ` john stultz
2009-08-17 21:45 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-08-17 22:23 ` john stultz
2009-08-17 23:02 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-08-17 23:17 ` john stultz
2009-08-17 23:27 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-08-17 23:40 ` [PATCH] make tsc=reliable override boot time stability checks john stultz
2009-08-18 1:39 ` Alok Kataria
2009-08-19 1:04 ` john stultz
2009-08-28 19:16 ` [tip:x86/tsc] x86: Make " tip-bot for john stultz
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