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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] perf_counter: Default to higher paranoia level
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:04:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090819160438.GC4972@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1250690853.8282.59.camel@twins>

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 04:07:33PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 11:18 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
> > +static inline bool perf_paranoid_anon(void)
> > +{
> > +	return !capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) && sysctl_perf_counter_paranoid > 1;
> >  }
> >  
> >  static inline bool perf_paranoid_kernel(void)
> >  {
> > -	return sysctl_perf_counter_paranoid > 1;
> > +	return !capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) && sysctl_perf_counter_paranoid > 2;
> > +}
> 
> OK, this is buggy:
> 
>  - capable() uses current, which is unlikely to be counter->owner,
>  - but even security_real_capable(counter->owner, ...) wouldn't
>    work, since the ->capable() callback isn't NMI safe
>    (selinux takes locks and does allocations in that path).
> 
> This puts a severe strain on more complex anonymizers since its
> basically impossible to tell if counter->owner has permissions on
> current from NMI context.
> 
> I'll fix up this patch to pre-compute the perf_paranoid_anon_ip() per
> counter based on creation time state, unless somebody has a better idea.


Something I don't understand there: it's about wide per cpu profiling,
then the task that have been created before the counter can also be
profiled, then how is the creation time useful here?



> I could possibly only anonymize IRQ context (SoftIRQ context is
> difficult since in_softirq() means both in-softirq and
> softirq-disabled).


I don't understand why we need to set this paranoid level concerning
kernel RIPS.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-19 16:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-19  9:18 [PATCH 0/4] perf counter bits Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-19  9:18 ` [PATCH 1/4] perf_counter: Default to higher paranoia level Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-19 14:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-19 16:04     ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2009-08-20 12:00     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-21 14:21       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-24  7:29         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-24  7:37           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-19  9:18 ` [PATCH 2/4] perf_counter: powerpc: Support the anonymized kernel callchain bits Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-19 13:30   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] perf_counter: powerpc: Support the anonimized " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-19  9:18 ` [PATCH 3/4] perf tools: Check perf.data owner Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-19 13:32   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-19  9:18 ` [PATCH 4/4][RFC] perf_counter: Allow sharing of output channels Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-19 10:58   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-19 11:07     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-19 12:41     ` Paul Mackerras
2009-08-19 12:36   ` Paul Mackerras
2009-08-19 12:56     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-19 12:56     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-19 13:00       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-20 10:13       ` stephane eranian
2009-08-20 10:24         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-20 10:28         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-19 16:19   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-19 16:24     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-19 16:27       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-25  7:39   ` [tip:perfcounters/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra

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