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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	"linux-pm" <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] PM: Asynchronous resume of devices
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 15:09:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200908301509.50855.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090830064533.GA1417@ucw.cz>

On Sunday 30 August 2009, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > > > > > > The same goes for the noirq versions.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I thought about that, but there are a few things to figure out:
> > > > > > - how many threads to start
> > > > > 
> > > > > That's a tough question.  Right now you start roughly as many threads
> > > > > as there are async devices.  That seems like overkill.
> > > > 
> > > > In fact they are substantially fewer than that, for the following reasons.
> > > > 
> > > > First, the async framework will not start more than MAX_THREADS threads,
> > > > which is 256 at the moment.  This number is less than the number of async
> > > > devices to handle on an average system.
> > > 
> > > Okay, but MAX_THREADS isn't under your control.  Remember also that 
> > > each thread takes up some memory, and during hibernation we are in a 
> > > memory-constrained situation.
> > 
> > We keep some extra free memory for things like this.  It's not likely to be
> > exhausted by the async threads alone.
> 
> What extra memory? You are creating quite a lot of threads. For 256 of
> them, it would take cca 2MB...

We never start that many threads and even if there's not enough memory to
start a new thread, the async framework will handle that for us.

> You recently removed code from s2disk that freed 4MB of extra memory,

That was removed from s2ram.  For STD we still have PAGES_FOR_IO and
SPARE_PAGES, nothing's changed there.

Thanks,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-30 13:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-26 20:17 [PATCH 0/6] PM: Asynchronous suspend and resume of devices Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-26 20:20 ` [PATCH 1/6] PM: Introduce PM links framework Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-28 15:16   ` Alan Stern
2009-08-28 19:11     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-26 20:21 ` [PATCH 2/6] PM: Asynchronous resume of devices Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-28 15:43   ` Alan Stern
2009-08-28 19:38     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-28 19:59       ` Alan Stern
2009-08-28 22:22         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-28 23:20           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-29  2:06           ` Alan Stern
2009-08-29 12:49             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-29 19:17               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-30  0:53                 ` Alan Stern
2009-08-30  0:48               ` Alan Stern
2009-08-30 13:15                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-30 21:13                   ` [PATCH 10] PM: Measure suspend and resume times for individual devices (was: Re: [PATCH 2/6] PM: Asynchronous resume of devices) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-31  7:25                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-31 12:53                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-31 13:52                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-31 15:56                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-31 21:32                             ` [PATCH 10 update] PM: Measure suspend and resume times for individual devices Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-09-04  7:51                             ` [PATCH 10] PM: Measure suspend and resume times for individual devices (was: Re: [PATCH 2/6] PM: Asynchronous resume of devices) Ingo Molnar
2009-09-04 14:42                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-09-04 19:12                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-04 21:56                                   ` [PATCH 10 update 2x] PM: Measure suspend and resume times for individual devices Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-09-06  4:44                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-06 12:13                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-31 14:09                     ` [PATCH 10] PM: Measure suspend and resume times for individual devices (was: Re: [PATCH 2/6] PM: Asynchronous resume of devices) Alan Stern
2009-08-31 16:00                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-30  6:45               ` [PATCH 2/6] PM: Asynchronous resume of devices Pavel Machek
2009-08-30 13:09                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2009-08-26 20:21 ` [PATCH 3/6] PM: Asynchronous suspend " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-26 20:22 ` [PATCH 4/6] PM: Allow PCI devices to suspend/resume asynchronously Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-26 20:23 ` [PATCH 5/6] PM: Allow ACPI " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-26 20:24 ` [PATCH 6/6] PM: Allow serio input " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-27 20:08   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-08-27 20:58     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-26 22:25 ` [PATCH 0/6] PM: Asynchronous suspend and resume of devices Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-27 19:17   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-27 19:19     ` [PATCH 7] PM: Add a switch for disabling/enabling asynchronous suspend/resume Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-27 20:07       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-08-27 22:22         ` [PATCH 7 updated] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-28  5:22           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-08-28 19:42             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-27 19:20     ` [PATCH 8] PM: Allow user space to change the power.async_suspend flag of devices Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-27 20:04       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-08-27 22:24         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-28  7:01           ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-29 19:20             ` [PATCH 8 update] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-27 20:46 ` [PATCH 0/6] PM: Asynchronous suspend and resume " Alan Stern
2009-08-27 21:18   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-08-29 19:22 ` [PATCH 9] PM: Measure device suspend and resume times (was: Re: [PATCH 0/6] PM: Asynchronous suspend and resume of devices) Rafael J. Wysocki

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