From: Imre Deak <imre.deak@nokia.com>
To: ext Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Steven Walter <stevenrwalter@gmail.com>,
David Xiao <dxiao@broadcom.com>, Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
v4l2_linux <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: How to efficiently handle DMA and cache on ARMv7 ? (was "Is get_user_pages() enough to prevent pages from being swapped out ?")
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 10:31:51 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090903073151.GA25928@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090902151044.GG30183@localhost>
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 05:10:44PM +0200, Deak Imre (Nokia-D/Helsinki) wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 03:43:48PM +0200, ext Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > [...]
> > I might be missing something obvious, but I fail to see how VIVT caches could
> > work at all with multiple mappings. If a kernel-allocated buffer is DMA'ed to,
> > we certainly want to invalidate all cache lines that store buffer data. As the
> > cache doesn't care about physical addresses we thus need to invalidate all
> > virtual mappings for the buffer. If the buffer is mmap'ed in userspace I don't
> > see how that would be done.
>
> To my understanding buffers returned by dma_alloc_*, kmalloc, vmalloc
> are ok:
>
> The cache lines for direct mapping are flushed in dma_alloc_* and
> vmalloc. After this you are not supposed to access the buffers
> through the direct mapping until you're done with the DMA.
>
> For kmalloc you use the direct mapping in the first place, so the
> flush in dma_map_* will be enough.
>
> For user mappings I think you'd have to do an additional flush for
> the direct mapping, while the user mapping is flushed in dma_map_*.
Based on the the discussion so far this is my understanding on how
zero-copy DMA is possible on ARM. Could you please confirm / correct
these? :
- user space passes an arbitrary buffer:
- get_user_pages(user address range)
- DMA(user address range)
- user space reads from the buffer
Problems:
- not supported according to Russell
- unhandled faults for cache ops on not-present PTEs, but patch
from Laurent fixes this
- mmap a kernel buffer to user space with cacheable mapping:
- user space writes to the buffer
- flush cache(user address range)
- DMA(kernel buffer)
- user space reads from the buffer
The additional flush cache is needed for VIVT/aliasing VIPT.
Instead of the flush cache:
- the mapping can be done with writethrough, non-writeallocate or
non-cacheable mapping, or
- for aliasing VIPT a non-aliasing user address is picked
DMA(address range) is:
- dma_map_*(address range)
- perform DMA to/from address range
- dma_unmap_*(address range)
Thanks,
Imre
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-03 7:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-06 10:08 How to efficiently handle DMA and cache on ARMv7 ? (was "Is get_user_pages() enough to prevent pages from being swapped out ?") Laurent Pinchart
2009-08-06 11:46 ` Ben Dooks
2009-08-06 13:06 ` Laurent Pinchart
2009-08-06 18:46 ` David Xiao
2009-08-06 19:16 ` Chetan.Loke
2009-08-06 20:15 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-06 22:25 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-07 5:59 ` David Xiao
2009-08-07 7:58 ` Laurent Pinchart
2009-08-07 8:10 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-07 9:54 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-07 9:59 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-07 12:07 ` Laurent Desnogues
2009-08-07 13:15 ` Robin Holt
2009-08-07 19:01 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-07 20:11 ` Laurent Pinchart
2009-08-07 20:28 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-07 22:25 ` David Xiao
2009-08-10 13:49 ` Laurent Pinchart
2009-08-07 8:08 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-07 10:23 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-07 19:03 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-08-11 9:31 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-08-11 18:23 ` David Xiao
2009-08-07 7:48 ` Laurent Pinchart
2009-08-25 12:53 ` Steven Walter
2009-08-25 22:02 ` David Xiao
2009-08-25 23:17 ` Laurent Pinchart
2009-08-26 17:22 ` David Xiao
2009-09-01 13:31 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-01 18:08 ` David Xiao
2009-09-01 13:28 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-01 13:43 ` Laurent Pinchart
2009-09-01 14:18 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-01 16:53 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-09-02 15:10 ` Imre Deak
2009-09-03 7:31 ` Imre Deak [this message]
2009-09-03 8:36 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-08 13:05 ` Steven Walter
2009-08-07 7:29 ` Laurent Pinchart
2009-08-07 8:12 ` Matthieu CASTET
2009-08-07 10:13 ` How to efficiently handle DMA and cache on ARMv7 ? (was " Is " Laurent Pinchart
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