From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:54:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090909115429.GY18599@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090909091009.GR18599@kernel.dk>
On Wed, Sep 09 2009, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 09 2009, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 08:13 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > * Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 08 2009, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 11:13 +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > > > > > And here's a newer version.
> > > > >
> > > > > I tinkered a bit with your proglet and finally found the
> > > > > problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > You used a single pipe per child, this means the loop in
> > > > > run_child() would consume what it just wrote out until it got
> > > > > force preempted by the parent which would also get woken.
> > > > >
> > > > > This results in the child spinning a while (its full quota) and
> > > > > only reporting the last timestamp to the parent.
> > > >
> > > > Oh doh, that's not well thought out. Well it was a quick hack :-)
> > > > Thanks for the fixup, now it's at least usable to some degree.
> > >
> > > What kind of latencies does it report on your box?
> > >
> > > Our vanilla scheduler default latency targets are:
> > >
> > > single-core: 20 msecs
> > > dual-core: 40 msecs
> > > quad-core: 60 msecs
> > > opto-core: 80 msecs
> > >
> > > You can enable CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG=y and set it directly as well via
> > > /proc/sys/kernel/sched_latency_ns:
> > >
> > > echo 10000000 > /proc/sys/kernel/sched_latency_ns
> >
> > He would also need to lower min_granularity, otherwise, it'd be larger
> > than the whole latency target.
> >
> > I'm testing right now, and one thing that is definitely a problem is the
> > amount of sleeper fairness we're giving. A full latency is just too
> > much short term fairness in my testing. While sleepers are catching up,
> > hogs languish. That's the biggest issue going on.
> >
> > I've also been doing some timings of make -j4 (looking at idle time),
> > and find that child_runs_first is mildly detrimental to fork/exec load,
> > as are buddies.
> >
> > I'm running with the below at the moment. (the kthread/workqueue thing
> > is just because I don't see any reason for it to exist, so consider it
> > to be a waste of perfectly good math;)
>
> Using latt, it seems better than -rc9. The below are entries logged
> while running make -j128 on a 64 thread box. I did two runs on each, and
> latt is using 8 clients.
>
> -rc9
> Max 23772 usec
> Avg 1129 usec
> Stdev 4328 usec
> Stdev mean 117 usec
>
> Max 32709 usec
> Avg 1467 usec
> Stdev 5095 usec
> Stdev mean 136 usec
>
> -rc9 + patch
>
> Max 11561 usec
> Avg 1532 usec
> Stdev 1994 usec
> Stdev mean 48 usec
>
> Max 9590 usec
> Avg 1550 usec
> Stdev 2051 usec
> Stdev mean 50 usec
>
> max latency is way down, and much smaller variation as well.
Things are much better with this patch on the notebook! I cannot compare
with BFS as that still doesn't run anywhere I want it to run, but it's
way better than -rc9-git stock. latt numbers on the notebook have 1/3
the max latency, average is lower, and stddev is much smaller too.
--
Jens Axboe
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2009-09-06 20:59 BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07 2:05 ` Frans Pop
2009-09-07 12:16 ` [quad core results] " Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07 12:36 ` Stefan Richter
2009-09-07 13:41 ` Markus Tornqvist
2009-09-07 13:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09 5:54 ` Markus Tornqvist
2009-09-07 14:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-07 15:20 ` Frans Pop
2009-09-07 15:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-07 15:47 ` Frans Pop
2009-09-07 15:24 ` Xavier Bestel
2009-09-07 15:37 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-07 16:00 ` Diego Calleja
2009-09-07 15:34 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07 3:38 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07 11:01 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-08 18:15 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-10 20:25 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-07 14:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-08 7:19 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 8:31 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-08 20:22 ` Frans Pop
2009-09-08 21:10 ` Michal Schmidt
2009-09-08 21:11 ` Frans Pop
2009-09-08 21:40 ` GeunSik Lim
2009-09-08 22:36 ` Frans Pop
2009-09-09 9:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-09 11:14 ` David Newall
2009-09-09 11:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-09 11:55 ` Frans Pop
2009-09-11 1:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-16 18:27 ` Frans Pop
2009-09-17 1:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-01 9:36 ` Frans Pop
2009-09-08 8:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-08 10:13 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 11:32 ` Juergen Beisert
2009-09-08 22:00 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 23:20 ` Jiri Kosina
2009-09-08 23:38 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 12:03 ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-08 21:28 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 14:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-08 22:53 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07 23:54 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-09-08 11:30 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07 3:50 ` Con Kolivas
2009-09-07 18:20 ` Jerome Glisse
2009-09-07 9:49 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 10:12 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07 10:41 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 11:57 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 14:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07 17:38 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 20:44 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 9:13 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 15:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-08 20:34 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-09 6:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09 8:34 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-09 8:52 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09 9:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-09 9:18 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09 9:05 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-09 9:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-09 9:40 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-09 10:17 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-10 19:45 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-10 20:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 20:39 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-10 20:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 21:19 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-11 9:26 ` Mat
2009-09-12 11:26 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-09 9:10 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-09 11:54 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2009-09-09 12:20 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-09 18:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09 20:12 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-09 20:50 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 1:02 ` Con Kolivas
2009-09-10 11:03 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 3:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-10 6:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 6:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 9:54 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 10:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 10:11 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 10:28 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 10:57 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-10 11:09 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 11:21 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-10 11:24 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 11:28 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-10 11:35 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 11:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-10 16:02 ` Bret Towe
2009-09-10 16:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-10 16:12 ` Bret Towe
2009-09-10 16:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 16:33 ` Bret Towe
2009-09-10 17:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 17:53 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-10 18:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 18:51 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Disable NEW_FAIR_SLEEPERS for now tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 18:57 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Fix sched::sched_stat_wait tracepoint field tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 9:48 ` BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 9:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 10:01 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 6:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-10 6:58 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 7:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 9:44 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 9:45 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 13:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-09-10 7:33 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 7:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 7:53 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 10:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 10:09 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-10 18:00 ` [crash, bisected] Re: clocksource: Resolve cpu hotplug dead lock with TSC unstable Ingo Molnar
2009-09-11 7:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-11 7:48 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-09-11 13:33 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-09-11 18:22 ` [tip:timers/core] clocksource: Resolve cpu hotplug dead lock with TSC unstable, fix crash tip-bot for Martin Schwidefsky
2009-09-14 15:19 ` [crash, bisected] Re: clocksource: Resolve cpu hotplug dead lock with TSC unstable Ingo Molnar
2009-09-14 15:37 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-09-14 17:59 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2009-09-10 6:59 ` BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09 12:48 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09 15:37 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Turn off child_runs_first tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09 17:57 ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-09 18:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09 18:59 ` Chris Friesen
2009-09-09 19:48 ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-09 15:37 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Re-tune the scheduler latency defaults to decrease worst-case latencies tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2009-09-12 11:45 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-09 15:37 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Keep kthreads at default priority tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09 16:55 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-09-09 17:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-09 17:34 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-12 11:48 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-12 12:19 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-09 11:52 ` BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-07 18:02 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-07 18:46 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 20:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07 20:46 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 21:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-07 21:05 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 22:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09 7:38 ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-10 12:19 ` latt location (Was Re: BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements) Jens Axboe
2009-09-07 15:16 ` BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Michael Buesch
2009-09-07 18:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07 18:47 ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-07 18:51 ` Michael Buesch
2009-09-07 20:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-07 23:24 ` Pekka Pietikainen
2009-09-08 8:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-08 8:13 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 10:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-08 10:40 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 11:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-08 19:06 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 12:00 ` el_es
2009-09-08 15:45 ` Michael Buesch
2009-09-08 7:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-08 9:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-08 13:09 ` Ralf Baechle
2009-09-09 1:36 ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-08 13:09 ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-09 0:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-09-09 0:37 ` David Miller
2009-09-08 14:45 ` Michael Buesch
2009-09-18 11:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-18 14:46 ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-19 18:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-19 18:43 ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-19 19:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-19 20:15 ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-19 20:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-19 20:33 ` Felix Fietkau
2009-09-20 18:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-08 12:57 ` Epic regression in throughput since v2.6.23 Serge Belyshev
2009-09-08 17:47 ` Jesse Brandeburg
2009-09-08 18:20 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 19:00 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-09-08 19:20 ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-08 19:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-09-08 18:37 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-08 22:15 ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-09 15:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-09 20:49 ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-09 21:23 ` Cory Fields
2009-09-10 6:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 23:23 ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-11 6:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-11 8:55 ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-13 15:27 ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-13 15:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-13 19:17 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-14 6:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-16 19:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-16 23:18 ` Serge Belyshev
2009-09-17 4:55 ` [patchlet] " Mike Galbraith
2009-09-17 5:06 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-17 7:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-10 7:43 ` [updated] BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Ingo Molnar
2009-09-14 9:46 ` Phoronix CFS vs BFS bencharks Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-14 11:35 ` Mike Galbraith
[not found] ` <f42384a10909140727k463ff460q3859892dcb79bcc5@mail.gmail.com>
2009-09-14 15:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-09-14 19:14 ` Marcin Letyns
2009-09-14 20:49 ` Willy Tarreau
2009-09-15 8:37 ` Mike Galbraith
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-09-10 21:17 BFS vs. mainline scheduler benchmarks and measurements Martin Steigerwald
2009-09-11 10:10 Mat
2009-09-11 18:33 Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-09-12 7:37 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-12 7:51 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-12 8:27 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-09-12 9:03 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-09-12 9:34 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
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