Re: [bug] /etc/profile: line 30: /dev/null: Permission denied (Was: Re: [PATCH] Remove broken by design and by implementation devtmpfs maintenance disaster)

[Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>]

* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Kay Sievers wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 20:53, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> > > I've reproduced a bug with the following .config options:
> > >
> > > ??CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y
> > > ??CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT=y
> > >
> > > /dev/null and /dev/zero are not read/writable to ordinary users, 
> > > breaking normal bootup and login:
> > 
> > Udev should run long before some ordinary/non-root user can login, 
> > and apply the permissions as it always does. It's known to work on 
> > Fedora, SUSE, Ubuntu. What kind of system/environment/setup is that 
> > where you see this?
> 
> I don't know if this is what Ingo does, but I have a few machines 
> where I don't run the distro-supplied 'initrd' at all, because it's 
> easier to boot without it. The Fedora initrd doesn't allow me to 
> sanely set root filesystem parameters without totally rewriting the 
> initrd image, which I'm not interested in, for example (they'll take 
> effect for the root initrd, not the final root).

Correct: i'm booting raw bzImages, with /dev copied to the real /dev. To 
this box udev is mostly an annoyance that slows down my bootup ;-)

Furthermore, this is a really old image, Fedora Core 6, where udev does 
not get updated anymore. I still boot new kernels on it though, and it 
worked fine up to now.

	Ingo