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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>
Cc: "Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"lee.schermerhorn@hp.com" <lee.schermerhorn@hp.com>,
	stable@kernel.org
Subject: Re: aim7 scalability issue on 4 socket machine
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:05:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090918000542.268934e1.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0909180742500.14561@sister.anvils>

On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:53:58 +0100 (BST) Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:02:19 +0800 "Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > So, Yanmin, please retest with http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/9/13/25
> > > > and let us know if that works as well for you - thanks.
> > > I tested Lee's patch and it does fix the issue.
> 
> Thanks for checking and reporting back, Yanmin.
> 
> > 
> > Do we think we should cook up something for -stable?
> 
> Gosh, I laughed at Lee (sorry!) for suggesting it for -stable:
> is stable really for getting a better number out of a benchmark?
> 
> I'd have thought the next release is the right place for that; but
> I've no problem if you guys and the stable guys agree it's appropriate.
> 
> > 
> > Either this is a regression or the workload is particularly obscure. 
> 
> I've not cross-checked descriptions, but assume Lee was actually
> testing on exactly the same kind of upcoming Nehalem as Yanmin, and
> that machine happens to have characteristics which show up badly here.
> 
> > 
> > aim7 is sufficiently non-obscure to make me wonder what's happened here?
> 
> Not a regression, just the onward march of new hardware, I think.
> Could easily be other such things in other places with other tests.
> 

Well, it comes down to the question "what is -stable for".

If you take it as "bugfixed version of the 2.6.x kernel" then no,
speedups aren't appropriate.

If you consider -stable to be "something distros, etc will use" then
yes, perhaps we serve those consumers better by including fairly major
efficiency improvements.

I suspect most consumers of -stable would prefer the latter approach,
as long as we don't go nuts.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-18  7:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-17  9:31 aim7 scalability issue on 4 socket machine Zhang, Yanmin
2009-09-17  9:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-17 10:35   ` Hugh Dickins
2009-09-18  2:02     ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-09-18  2:59       ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-18  3:17         ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-09-18  6:53         ` Hugh Dickins
2009-09-18  7:05           ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2009-12-06 20:08             ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-06 20:11               ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-06 21:11                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-06 22:17                   ` [stable] " Greg KH
2009-12-06 22:23                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-18  7:12           ` Andi Kleen
2009-09-18  7:29             ` Hugh Dickins
2009-09-18 13:15             ` Lee Schermerhorn
2009-09-18 14:33               ` Andi Kleen
2009-09-17 10:35 ` Ingo Molnar

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