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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	"jens.axboe@oracle.com" <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"chris.mason@oracle.com" <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fs: Fix busyloop in wb_writeback()
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:45:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090921134511.GG1099@duck.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090921010859.GA6331@localhost>

On Mon 21-09-09 09:08:59, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 01:43:56AM +0800, Jan Kara wrote:
> > On Sun 20-09-09 10:35:28, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 01:22:48AM +0800, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > > If all inodes are under writeback (e.g. in case when there's only one inode
> > > > with dirty pages), wb_writeback() with WB_SYNC_NONE work basically degrades
> > > > to busylooping until I_SYNC flags of the inode is cleared. Fix the problem by
> > > > waiting on I_SYNC flags of an inode on b_more_io list in case we failed to
> > > > write anything.
> > > 
> > > Sorry, I realized that inode_wait_for_writeback() waits for I_SYNC.
> > > But inodes in b_more_io are not expected to have I_SYNC set. So your
> > > patch looks like a big no-op?
> >   Hmm, I don't think so. writeback_single_inode() does:
> >         if (inode->i_state & I_SYNC) {
> >                 /*
> >                  * If this inode is locked for writeback and we are not
> >                  * doing
> >                  * writeback-for-data-integrity, move it to b_more_io so
> >                  * that
> >                  * writeback can proceed with the other inodes on s_io.
> >                  *
> >                  * We'll have another go at writing back this inode when we
> >                  * completed a full scan of b_io.
> >                  */
> >                 if (!wait) {
> >                         requeue_io(inode);
> >                         return 0;
> >                 }
> > 
> >   So when we see inode under writeback, we put it to b_more_io. So I think
> > my patch really fixes the issue when two threads are racing on writing the
> > same inode.
> 
> Ah OK. So it busy loops when there are more syncing threads than dirty
> files. For example, one bdi flush thread plus one process running
> balance_dirty_pages().
  Yes.

> > > The busy loop does exists, when bdi is congested.
> > > In this case, write_cache_pages() will refuse to write anything,
> > > we used to be calling congestion_wait() to take a breath, but now
> > > wb_writeback() purged that call and thus created a busy loop.
> >   I don't think congestion is an issue here. The device needen't be
> > congested for the busyloop to happen.
> 
> bdi congestion is a different case. When there are only one syncing
> thread, b_more_io inodes won't have I_SYNC, so your patch is a no-op.
> wb_writeback() or any of its sub-routines must wait/yield for a while
> to avoid busy looping on the congestion. Where is the wait with Jens'
> new code?
  I agree someone must wait when we bail out due to congestion. But we bail
out only when wbc->nonblocking is set. So I'd feel that callers setting
this flag should handle it when we stop the writeback due to congestion.

> Another question is, why wbc.more_io can be ignored for kupdate syncs?
> I guess it would lead to slow writeback of large files.
> 
> This patch reflects my concerns on the two problems.
> 
> Thanks,
> Fengguang
> ---
>  fs/fs-writeback.c |    6 ++++--
>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> --- linux.orig/fs/fs-writeback.c	2009-09-20 10:44:25.000000000 +0800
> +++ linux/fs/fs-writeback.c	2009-09-21 08:53:09.000000000 +0800
> @@ -818,8 +818,10 @@ static long wb_writeback(struct bdi_writ
>  		/*
>  		 * If we ran out of stuff to write, bail unless more_io got set
>  		 */
> -		if (wbc.nr_to_write > 0 || wbc.pages_skipped > 0) {
> -			if (wbc.more_io && !wbc.for_kupdate)
> +		if (wbc.nr_to_write > 0) {
> +			if (wbc.encountered_congestion)
> +				congestion_wait(BLK_RW_ASYNC, HZ);
> +			if (wbc.more_io)
>  				continue;
>  			break;
>  		}
  OK, this change looks reasonable but I think we'll have to revisit
the writeback logic more in detail as we discussed in the other thread.

									Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-21 13:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-16 17:22 [PATCH] fs: Fix busyloop in wb_writeback() Jan Kara
2009-09-16 18:41 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-17  9:09   ` Jan Kara
2009-09-21 13:01   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-21 13:06     ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-21 13:10       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-21 13:40         ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-21 13:19     ` Jan Kara
2009-09-21 13:28       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-19  1:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-20  2:35 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-20 17:43   ` Jan Kara
2009-09-21  1:08     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-21 13:45       ` Jan Kara [this message]
2009-09-21 14:11         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-21 14:19           ` Chris Mason
2009-09-21 14:31             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-21 14:45               ` Chris Mason
2009-09-22  9:14                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  7:56 ` Wu Fengguang

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