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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	"Li, Shaohua" <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"richard@rsk.demon.co.uk" <richard@rsk.demon.co.uk>,
	"jens.axboe@oracle.com" <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: regression in page writeback
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:45:00 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090923014500.GA11076@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090922182832.28e7f73a.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 09:28:32AM +0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:17:58 +0800 Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 08:54:52AM +0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:22:20 +0800 Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Jens' per-bdi writeback has another improvement. In 2.6.31, when
> > > > superblocks A and B both have 100000 dirty pages, it will first
> > > > exhaust A's 100000 dirty pages before going on to sync B's.
> > > 
> > > That would only be true if someone broke 2.6.31.  Did they?
> > > 
> > > SYSCALL_DEFINE0(sync)
> > > {
> > > 	wakeup_pdflush(0);
> > > 	sync_filesystems(0);
> > > 	sync_filesystems(1);
> > > 	if (unlikely(laptop_mode))
> > > 		laptop_sync_completion();
> > > 	return 0;
> > > }
> > > 
> > > the sync_filesystems(0) is supposed to non-blockingly start IO against
> > > all devices.  It used to do that correctly.  But people mucked with it
> > > so perhaps it no longer does.
> > 
> > I'm referring to writeback_inodes(). Each invocation of which (to sync
> > 4MB) will do the same iteration over superblocks A => B => C ... So if
> > A has dirty pages, it will always be served first.
> > 
> > So if wbc->bdi == NULL (which is true for kupdate/background sync), it
> > will have to first exhaust A before going on to B and C.
> 
> But that works OK.  We fill the first device's queue, then it gets
> congested and sync_sb_inodes() does nothing and we advance to the next
> queue.

So in common cases "exhaust" is a bit exaggerated, but A does receive
much more opportunity than B. Computation resources for IO submission
are unbalanced for A, and there are pointless overheads in rechecking A.

> If a device has more than a queue's worth of dirty data then we'll
> probably leave some of that dirty memory un-queued, so there's some
> lack of concurrency in that situation.

Good insight. That possibly explains one major factor of the
performance gains of Jens' per-bdi writeback.

Thanks,
Fengguang

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-09-23  1:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-22  5:49 regression in page writeback Shaohua Li
2009-09-22  6:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-22  8:05   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-22  8:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-22  8:24       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-22  8:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-22  8:51           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-22  8:52           ` Richard Kennedy
2009-09-22  9:05             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-22 11:41               ` Shaohua Li
2009-09-22 15:52           ` Chris Mason
2009-09-23  0:22             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  0:54               ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-23  1:17                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  1:27                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  1:28                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-23  1:32                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  1:47                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-23  2:01                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  2:09                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-23  3:07                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  1:45                     ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2009-09-23  1:59                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-23  2:26                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  2:36                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-23  2:49                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  2:56                               ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-23  3:11                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  3:10                               ` Shaohua Li
2009-09-23  3:14                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  3:25                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23 14:00                             ` Chris Mason
2009-09-24  3:15                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-24 12:10                                 ` Chris Mason
2009-09-25  3:26                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-25  0:11                                 ` Dave Chinner
2009-09-25  0:38                                   ` Chris Mason
2009-09-25  5:04                                     ` Dave Chinner
2009-09-25  6:45                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-28  1:07                                         ` Dave Chinner
2009-09-28  7:15                                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-28 13:08                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-28 14:07                                               ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-30  5:26                                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-30  5:32                                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-01 22:17                                                     ` Jan Kara
2009-10-02  3:27                                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-06 12:55                                                         ` Jan Kara
2009-10-06 13:18                                                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-30 14:11                                                   ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-01 15:14                                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-01 21:54                                                       ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-02  2:55                                                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-02  8:19                                                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-02 17:26                                                             ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-03  6:10                                                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-29  2:32                                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-29 14:00                                                 ` Chris Mason
2009-09-29 14:21                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-29  0:15                                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-28 14:25                                           ` Chris Mason
2009-09-29 23:39                                             ` Dave Chinner
2009-09-30  1:30                                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-25 12:06                                       ` Chris Mason
2009-09-25  3:19                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-26  1:47                                     ` Dave Chinner
2009-09-26  3:02                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  9:19                         ` Richard Kennedy
2009-09-23  9:23                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-23  9:37                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23 10:30                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  6:41             ` Shaohua Li
2009-09-22 10:49 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-22 11:50   ` Shaohua Li
2009-09-22 13:39     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  1:52       ` Shaohua Li
2009-09-23  4:00         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-25  6:14           ` Wu Fengguang

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