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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
Cc: Daniel Walker <dwalker@fifo99.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Subject: Re: checkpatch as a tool (was Re: [RFC][PATCH] SCHED_EDF scheduling class)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:22:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090923122256.GA6390@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1253667708.30020.134.camel@Joe-Laptop.home>


* Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-09-22 at 17:51 -0700, Daniel Walker wrote:
> > I'll stop sending those
> > emails if it's actually negative , but I don't think it is..
> 
> Hi Daniel.
> 
> I think it'd be more helpful if instead of merely sending
> a "hah! checkpatch failure!" email you send the submitter
> a gentler nudge and a fixed patch.

He should consider not sending them at all. It's up to maintainers and 
the developers involved with that code whether the small details that 
checkpatch flags are important or not at a given point in the patch 
cycle.

For example i use checkpatch all the time and i think it's a fantastic 
tool, still i dont want another nuisance layer on lkml interfering with 
the patch flow.

If a patch gets so far in the patch cycle that i'm thinking about 
merging it, i might fix the checkpatch failures myself (often they are 
trivial), and i might warn frequent contributors about repeat patterns 
of small uncleanlinesses - or i might bounce the patch back to the 
contributor. I also ignore certain classes of checkpatch warnings.

What Daniel is doing is basically a semi-mandatory checkpatch layer on 
lkml and that's both a distraction and harmful as well. We dont need a 
"checkpatch police" on lkml. We want an open, reasonable, human driven 
patch process with very little buerocracy and no buerocrats.

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-09-23 12:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-22 10:30 [RFC][PATCH] SCHED_EDF scheduling class Raistlin
2009-09-22 11:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-22 12:51   ` Raistlin
2009-09-22 18:36     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-23 12:19       ` Raistlin
2009-09-23 12:25         ` Dhaval Giani
2009-09-27  6:55       ` Henrik Austad
2009-09-29 16:10         ` Raistlin
2009-09-29 17:34           ` Chris Friesen
2009-09-30 15:58             ` Raistlin
2009-09-30 17:35               ` Chris Friesen
2009-09-22 11:58 ` Claudio Scordino
2009-09-22 12:38   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-24 16:08     ` Claudio Scordino
2009-09-22 13:24 ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-22 14:01   ` Raistlin
2009-09-22 14:02     ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-22 16:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-22 19:11       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-23  0:51         ` checkpatch as a tool (was Re: [RFC][PATCH] SCHED_EDF scheduling class) Daniel Walker
2009-09-23  1:01           ` Joe Perches
2009-09-23  1:11             ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-23 19:24               ` Andy Isaacson
2009-09-24 14:58                 ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-30 12:06               ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-23 12:22             ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-09-23 14:43               ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-30 12:04           ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-23  7:03         ` [RFC][PATCH] SCHED_EDF scheduling class Raistlin
2009-09-23 21:39     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-09-24  0:58       ` GeunSik Lim
2009-09-22 16:38   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-22 23:39   ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-09-22 23:55     ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-23  0:06       ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-09-23  0:40         ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-23 11:46           ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-23 12:25             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-23 14:50               ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-23 14:58                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-23 15:08                   ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-23 15:12                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-23 15:24                       ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-30 12:05                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-22 20:55 ` Linus Walleij
2009-09-23 13:00   ` Raistlin
2009-09-23 13:22   ` Claudio Scordino
2009-09-23 14:08     ` Linus Walleij
2009-09-23 14:45       ` Raistlin
2009-09-23 12:33 ` Linus Walleij
2009-09-23 12:50   ` Linus Walleij
2009-09-23 13:30   ` Raistlin
2009-09-29 18:15     ` roel kluin
2009-09-30 15:59       ` Raistlin
2009-09-24  0:34 ` GeunSik Lim
2009-09-24  6:08   ` Raistlin
2009-09-24  9:11   ` Claudio Scordino

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