From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Stanislaw Gruszka <sgruszka@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] itimers: fix racy writes to cpu_itimer fields
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:19:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090924201943.GA19969@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1253815467.18939.168.camel@laptop>
* Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 19:57 +0200, Stanislaw Gruszka wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:48:07 +0200
> > Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 16:35 +0200, Stanislaw Gruszka wrote:
> > > > incr_error and error fields of struct cpu_itimer are used when calculating
> > > > next timer tick in check_cpu_itimers() and should not be modified without
> > > > tsk->sighand->siglock taken.
> > >
> > > Won't it be all-round much better to convert these things to hrtimers
> > > instead of adding more and more fuzz on top to make them deal with
> > > jiffies?
> >
> > Perhaps it would, but I don't know how to do it :{ . Especially how to
> > precisely account user time. The only idea I have is make something like
> > microstate accounting (http://lwn.net/Articles/127296/), but this patch
> > and whole idea was rejected long time ago.
>
> That patch does look a little painful indeed.
>
> I was more thinking about about looking if an itimer was to expire less
> than 1 tick away on either sched-in or the tick.
>
> When we find it is indeed less than 1 tick away, program an hrtimer for
> that cpu to expire at the required moment, see hrtick_start().
>
> If we happen to de-schedule the task before the timer fires, we clear
> the hrtimer again (or let it pend and ignore the fire), see
> hrtick_clear().
>
> [ there is no reason to rely on the tick though, we can program the
> hrtimer on sched in to expire on at the right moment, and do so on
> each schedule for as long as an itimer is active - re-setting whatever
> pending timer the cpu still had. ]
we should think about the simplest approach: switching itimers to
hrtimers.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-24 20:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-24 14:35 [PATCH 1/2] itimers: fix racy writes to cpu_itimer fields Stanislaw Gruszka
2009-09-24 14:35 ` [PATCH 2/2] posix-cpu-timers: initialize new_itimer->it.cpu.firing Stanislaw Gruszka
2009-09-24 14:48 ` [PATCH 1/2] itimers: fix racy writes to cpu_itimer fields Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-24 17:57 ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2009-09-24 18:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-24 20:19 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-09-30 15:05 ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2009-11-18 15:36 ` [tip:timers/urgent] itimers: Fix " tip-bot for Stanislaw Gruszka
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