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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	"Li, Shaohua" <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"richard@rsk.demon.co.uk" <richard@rsk.demon.co.uk>,
	"jens.axboe@oracle.com" <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"hch@infradead.org" <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: regression in page writeback
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:26:11 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090925032611.GC10487@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090924121034.GA2797@think>

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 08:10:34PM +0800, Chris Mason wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 11:15:08AM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> 
> [ why do the bdi-writeback work? ]
> 
[snip]
> > > The congestion checks prevent any attempts from the filesystem to write
> > > a whole extent (or a large portion of an extent) at a time.
> > 
> > Since writepage is called one by one for each page, will its
> > interleaveness impact filesystem decisions? Ie. between these two
> > writepage sequences.
> > 
> >         A1, B1, A2, B2, A3, B3, A4, B4
> >         A1, A2, A3, A4, B1, B2, B3, B4
> > 
> > Where each An/Bn stands for one page of file A/B, n is page index.
> 
> For XFS this is the key question.  We're doing streaming writes, so the
> delayed allocation code is responsible for allocating extents, and this
> is triggered from writepage.  Your first example becomes:
> 
>          A1 [allocate extent A1-A50 ], submit A1
> 	 B1 [allocate extent B1-B50 ], submit B1 (seek)
> 	 A2, (seek back to A1's extent)
> 	 B2, (seek back to B1's extent)
> 	 ...
> 
> This is why the XFS graph for pdflush isn't a straight line.   When we
> back off file A and switch to file B, we seek between extents created by
> delalloc.

Does it mean XFS writeback is somehow serialized, so that the elevator
cannot do request merges well?  Hope that's not true..

> Thanks for spending time reading through all of this.  It's a ton of data
> and your improvements are much appreciated!

Thank you :)

Regards,
Fengguang

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-25  3:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-22  5:49 regression in page writeback Shaohua Li
2009-09-22  6:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-22  8:05   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-22  8:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-22  8:24       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-22  8:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-22  8:51           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-22  8:52           ` Richard Kennedy
2009-09-22  9:05             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-22 11:41               ` Shaohua Li
2009-09-22 15:52           ` Chris Mason
2009-09-23  0:22             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  0:54               ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-23  1:17                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  1:27                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  1:28                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-23  1:32                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  1:47                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-23  2:01                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  2:09                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-23  3:07                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  1:45                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  1:59                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-23  2:26                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  2:36                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-23  2:49                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  2:56                               ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-23  3:11                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  3:10                               ` Shaohua Li
2009-09-23  3:14                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  3:25                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23 14:00                             ` Chris Mason
2009-09-24  3:15                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-24 12:10                                 ` Chris Mason
2009-09-25  3:26                                   ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2009-09-25  0:11                                 ` Dave Chinner
2009-09-25  0:38                                   ` Chris Mason
2009-09-25  5:04                                     ` Dave Chinner
2009-09-25  6:45                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-28  1:07                                         ` Dave Chinner
2009-09-28  7:15                                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-28 13:08                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-28 14:07                                               ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-30  5:26                                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-30  5:32                                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-01 22:17                                                     ` Jan Kara
2009-10-02  3:27                                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-06 12:55                                                         ` Jan Kara
2009-10-06 13:18                                                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-30 14:11                                                   ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-01 15:14                                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-01 21:54                                                       ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-02  2:55                                                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-02  8:19                                                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-02 17:26                                                             ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-03  6:10                                                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-29  2:32                                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-29 14:00                                                 ` Chris Mason
2009-09-29 14:21                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-29  0:15                                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-28 14:25                                           ` Chris Mason
2009-09-29 23:39                                             ` Dave Chinner
2009-09-30  1:30                                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-25 12:06                                       ` Chris Mason
2009-09-25  3:19                                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-26  1:47                                     ` Dave Chinner
2009-09-26  3:02                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  9:19                         ` Richard Kennedy
2009-09-23  9:23                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-23  9:37                             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23 10:30                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  6:41             ` Shaohua Li
2009-09-22 10:49 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-22 11:50   ` Shaohua Li
2009-09-22 13:39     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-23  1:52       ` Shaohua Li
2009-09-23  4:00         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-25  6:14           ` Wu Fengguang

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