From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>,
Prasanna S Panchamukhi <prasanna@in.ibm.com>,
Rusty Lynch <rusty.lynch@intel.com>,
Jim Keniston <jkenisto@us.ibm.com>,
Vamsi Krishna S <vamsi_krishna@in.ibm.com>,
Suparna Bhattacharya <suparna@in.ibm.com>,
Nathan Sidwell <nathan@codesourcery.com>,
Dominique Toupin <dominique.toupin@ericsson.com>,
Anton Massoud <anton.massoud@ericsson.com>,
Richard J Moore <richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Immediate values
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 03:35:13 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090925073512.GA10346@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090925085119.2b77ea04@infradead.org>
* Arjan van de Ven (arjan@infradead.org) wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:34:22 +0200
> Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
>
[context for people CCed: see
http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/9/24/262]
> >
> > * H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I would like to get an official ACK or NAK for this patching
> > > technique from inside Intel, and preferrably from AMD as well. If
> > > it does work as described it would provide a very clean way to do
> > > one-shot alternative functions, which probably would be higher
> > > value than immediate data values.
> >
> > Sounds tempting. Things like the CONFIG_SECURITY hookery could use it?
> >
> > But ... since it's patched under stopmachine, is there any reason why
> > this wouldnt work?
> >
>
> stopmachine is fine.
>
> more aggressive tricks are rather dicey.
>
> (cross modifying code that's being executed in ring 0 is ... not
> something CPU designers had in mind)
>
Then, following your advice, kprobes should be re-designed to do a
stop_machine around the int3 breakpoint insertion ? And gdb
should be stopping all threads of a target process before inserting a
breakpoint. Therefore, I do not seem to be the only one confused about
Intel statement on this issue.
Mathieu
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-25 7:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-24 12:31 Immediate values Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-09-24 12:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-24 14:02 ` Jason Baron
2009-09-24 14:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-24 14:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-09-24 19:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-24 19:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-25 6:51 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-25 7:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2009-09-25 8:25 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-25 10:02 ` Alan Cox
2009-09-25 10:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-25 16:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-25 16:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-25 17:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-25 10:18 ` Richard J Moore
2009-09-25 11:12 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-09-24 14:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-24 15:39 ` Jason Baron
2009-09-24 16:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
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