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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL v2] bkl tracepoints + filter regex support
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:12:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090925091229.GB4686@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1253866792.10287.0.camel@twins>

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:19:52AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 23:36 +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> 
> > > Remember, there are no second chances for the filter syntax anymore.
> > 
> > 
> > But well, it's not yet an ABI. It's still a baby, although powerful
> > for filtering, it's not yet a whole scripting language.
> > 
> > Before thinking about it as an ABI, we should develop it, extend
> > it, use these extensions, spot the weaknesses in the syntax, fix them,
> > etc...
> 
> Then this is a NACK for the perf ioctl for setting a filter. Fine with
> me.


Ftrace side (debugfs use):

I think the native filter glob is good for ftrace use through debugfs.
As I said, IMO it's so much a primary requirement for events filtering
that it should be a default.
But if others have mixed feelings about it, tell me and I will
reconsider. I've done this native glob in this patchset because the
general opinion (yours included) was in favour of that, instead of
a split into a filter and another filter_glob file.
That said, the future plans have evolved, and I'm fine if you have
changed your opinion and think about a better way to develop this.


Perf side:

But the use from perf would be for a larger scope. And I agree we may
want to break this glob default from it to get a flexible usability
and use a pure string match by default that we can override with
functions-like expressions.


So why not keeping the default native blob for ftrace and throw away
this default for perf? It's a matter of a flag in the filters.

You don't need to drop a NACK rock on the ground and laconically go out
like that to wake me up. I think I've already enough shown how much I'm
willing to help building a nice bridge between ftrace and perf.
I just don't want that this bridge turns out any ftrace uses through debugfs
into an overkill.
Instead I'd prefer to satisfy both, hence the above proposition.

Thanks,
Frederic.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-25  9:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-24 19:49 [GIT PULL v2] bkl tracepoints + filter regex support Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-24 19:49 ` [PATCH 1/5 v2] tracing/bkl: Add bkl ftrace events Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-24 19:49 ` [PATCH 2/5 v2] tracing/filters: Cleanup useless headers Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-24 19:49 ` [PATCH 3/5 v2] tracing/event: Cleanup the useless dentry variable Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-24 19:49 ` [PATCH 4/5 v2] tracing/filters: Provide basic regex support Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-25  8:13   ` Andrey Panin
2009-09-25  8:16     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-24 19:49 ` [PATCH 5/5] tracing/filters: Unify the regex parsing helpers Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-24 20:15 ` [GIT PULL v2] bkl tracepoints + filter regex support Ingo Molnar
2009-09-24 20:16   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-24 20:22     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-25  7:55       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-24 20:30     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-24 20:44       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-24 20:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-24 21:36           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-25  8:19             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-25  9:12               ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2009-09-25  9:40                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-25 10:38                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-26 10:44                     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-10-03 11:36                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-26 15:47                     ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-10-03 11:49                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-09-26 10:30                   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-09-24 20:33     ` Frederic Weisbecker

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