From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [bug] /etc/profile: line 30: /dev/null: Permission denied (Was: Re: [PATCH] Remove broken by design and by implementation devtmpfs maintenance disaster)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:49:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090925204925.GA4726@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090918055843.GB7104@kroah.com>
Hi!
> > > > > I've reproduced a bug with the following .config options:
> > > > >
> > > > > ??CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y
> > > > > ??CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT=y
> > > > >
> > > > > /dev/null and /dev/zero are not read/writable to ordinary users,
> > > > > breaking normal bootup and login:
> > > >
> > > > Udev should run long before some ordinary/non-root user can login,
> > > > and apply the permissions as it always does. It's known to work on
> > > > Fedora, SUSE, Ubuntu. What kind of system/environment/setup is that
> > > > where you see this?
> > >
> > > I don't know if this is what Ingo does, but I have a few machines
> > > where I don't run the distro-supplied 'initrd' at all, because it's
> > > easier to boot without it. The Fedora initrd doesn't allow me to
> > > sanely set root filesystem parameters without totally rewriting the
> > > initrd image, which I'm not interested in, for example (they'll take
> > > effect for the root initrd, not the final root).
> >
> > Correct: i'm booting raw bzImages, with /dev copied to the real /dev. To
> > this box udev is mostly an annoyance that slows down my bootup ;-)
>
> I use non-initrd systems as well, and this option works for me on Gentoo
> and SUSE machines.
>
> As you are using a very old udev, and the boot infrastructure for udev
> in older Fedora releases was a bit "odd" in places, I would recommend
> not using these options on that machine. If we need to reword the
> Kconfig help option to make it a bit more clear, do you have a
> suggestion on what we should change?
"no regressions" ?
Pavel
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Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-17 8:23 [PATCH] Remove broken by design and by implementation devtmpfs maintenance disaster Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-17 12:03 ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-17 13:13 ` Alan Cox
2009-09-17 16:35 ` Scott James Remnant
2009-09-17 17:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-17 18:59 ` Scott James Remnant
2009-09-17 19:11 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-18 12:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-18 13:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-18 13:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-18 14:09 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-18 14:11 ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 14:25 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-18 14:32 ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 14:43 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-18 14:58 ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 15:13 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-18 15:32 ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 19:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-18 14:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-17 12:57 ` Greg KH
2009-09-17 13:05 ` Alan Cox
2009-09-17 13:29 ` Greg KH
2009-09-17 15:43 ` Alan Cox
2009-09-18 6:03 ` Greg KH
2009-09-18 9:25 ` Alan Cox
2009-09-18 15:05 ` Greg KH
2009-09-17 17:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-17 18:53 ` [bug] /etc/profile: line 30: /dev/null: Permission denied (Was: Re: [PATCH] Remove broken by design and by implementation devtmpfs maintenance disaster) Ingo Molnar
2009-09-17 19:18 ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-17 20:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-17 20:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-18 5:58 ` Greg KH
2009-09-25 20:49 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-09-27 22:52 ` Greg KH
2009-09-17 22:26 ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-17 22:41 ` Alan Cox
2009-09-18 0:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-18 1:50 ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 6:02 ` Greg KH
2009-09-18 11:50 ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 14:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-18 15:05 ` Greg KH
2009-09-18 15:37 ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 19:35 ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 19:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-18 19:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-20 1:43 ` Dave Airlie
2009-09-20 15:08 ` Greg KH
2009-09-21 2:58 ` Dave Airlie
[not found] ` <ac3eb2510909200912o76e0d4e4l2dcaf352fe6b4e19@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <ac3eb2510909200914g1ed6a47cydc0edec6fff96ef4@mail.gmail.com>
2009-09-21 2:59 ` Dave Airlie
2009-10-20 20:32 ` Scott James Remnant
2009-09-20 17:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-09-18 20:58 ` [bug] /etc/profile: line 30: /dev/null: Permission denied Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-18 21:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-18 21:19 ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 22:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-09-18 21:31 ` Kay Sievers
2009-09-18 22:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-09-18 5:54 ` [PATCH] Remove broken by design and by implementation devtmpfs maintenance disaster Greg KH
2009-09-18 12:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
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