From: Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>
To: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Userspace RCU: (ab)using futexes to save cpu cycles and energy
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:05:22 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090926070522.GB32430@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090923232855.GB9621@Krystal>
* Mathieu Desnoyers (mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca) wrote:
> * Chris Friesen (cfriesen@nortel.com) wrote:
> > On 09/23/2009 04:32 PM, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> >
> >
> > > /*
> > > * Defer thread waiting. Single thread.
> > > */
> > > static void wait_defer(void)
> > > {
> > > atomic_dec(&defer_thread_futex);
> > > smp_mb(); /* Write futex before read queue */
> > > if (rcu_defer_num_callbacks()) {
> > > smp_mb(); /* Read queue before write futex */
> > > /* Callbacks are queued, don't wait. */
> > > atomic_set(&defer_thread_futex, 0);
> > > } else {
> > > smp_rmb(); /* Read queue before read futex */
> > > if (atomic_read(&defer_thread_futex) == -1)
> > > futex(&defer_thread_futex, FUTEX_WAIT, -1,
> > > NULL, NULL, 0);
> > > }
> > > }
> >
> > > The goal here is that if call_rcu() enqueues a callback (even if it
> > > races with defer thread going to sleep), there should not be a
> > > potentially infinite delay before it gets executed.
> >
> > It doesn't seem like the test for the number of callbacks should be
> > necessary. I don't see anything like that in the glibc code, nor do I
> > remember anything like that in the futex sample code.
> >
>
> The mutex code (and usual futex users) use futex to implement mutual
> exclusion. My goal is to send a wakeup signal to a thread waiting for
> work to perform when adding such work. But without any mutual exclusion.
>
> So it is understandable that glibc code or futex sample code does not
> cover that, given this use is, well, creative. ;)
>
> > I'm still not totally convinced that you can avoid race conditions
> > without using atomic test-and-set or compare-and-exchange. I haven't
> > sat down and worked it out completely though.
> >
>
> Yes.. this is heavily dependent on the states and values which can be
> reached. I should probably take time to create a promela model and run
> that though the spin model checker to be sure.
>
Just created a Promela model for this. It assumes sequential memory
ordering (so it's a fairly simplified model). Given I added memory
barriers between each operation, it should well represent reality
though.
My algorithm seems to behave as expected: when a callback is added to
the queue, it's not possible to have the waiter thread blocked until the
end of days.
Available at:
http://www.lttng.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=userspace-rcu.git;a=blob;f=formal-model/futex-wakeup/futex.spin
Thanks,
Mathieu
> Thanks for the comments,
>
> Mathieu
>
> > Chris
>
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> Mathieu Desnoyers
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-26 7:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-23 17:48 [RFC] Userspace RCU: (ab)using futexes to save cpu cycles and energy Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-09-23 18:04 ` Chris Friesen
2009-09-23 19:03 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-09-23 22:32 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-09-23 23:12 ` Chris Friesen
2009-09-23 23:28 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-09-26 7:05 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2009-09-28 7:11 ` Michael Schnell
2009-09-28 10:58 ` Michael Schnell
2009-09-28 11:01 ` Michael Schnell
2009-10-01 14:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-04 14:37 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-10-04 20:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-04 21:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
[not found] ` <4AC99D55.8000102@lumino.de>
[not found] ` <20091005125533.GA1857@Krystal>
2009-10-05 13:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-10-05 22:21 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-10-07 7:22 ` Michael Schnell
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