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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>
To: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Userspace RCU: (ab)using futexes to save cpu cycles and energy
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:05:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090926070522.GB32430@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090923232855.GB9621@Krystal>

* Mathieu Desnoyers (mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca) wrote:
> * Chris Friesen (cfriesen@nortel.com) wrote:
> > On 09/23/2009 04:32 PM, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > /*
> > >  * Defer thread waiting. Single thread.
> > >  */
> > > static void wait_defer(void)
> > > {
> > >         atomic_dec(&defer_thread_futex);
> > >         smp_mb();       /* Write futex before read queue */
> > >         if (rcu_defer_num_callbacks()) {
> > >                 smp_mb();       /* Read queue before write futex */
> > >                 /* Callbacks are queued, don't wait. */
> > >                 atomic_set(&defer_thread_futex, 0);
> > >         } else {
> > >                 smp_rmb();      /* Read queue before read futex */
> > >                 if (atomic_read(&defer_thread_futex) == -1)
> > >                         futex(&defer_thread_futex, FUTEX_WAIT, -1,
> > >                               NULL, NULL, 0);
> > >         }
> > > }
> > 
> > > The goal here is that if call_rcu() enqueues a callback (even if it
> > > races with defer thread going to sleep), there should not be a
> > > potentially infinite delay before it gets executed.
> > 
> > It doesn't seem like the test for the number of callbacks should be
> > necessary.  I don't see anything like that in the glibc code, nor do I
> > remember anything like that in the futex sample code.
> > 
> 
> The mutex code (and usual futex users) use futex to implement mutual
> exclusion.  My goal is to send a wakeup signal to a thread waiting for
> work to perform when adding such work. But without any mutual exclusion.
> 
> So it is understandable that glibc code or futex sample code does not
> cover that, given this use is, well, creative. ;)
> 
> > I'm still not totally convinced that you can avoid race conditions
> > without using atomic test-and-set or compare-and-exchange.  I haven't
> > sat down and worked it out completely though.
> > 
> 
> Yes.. this is heavily dependent on the states and values which can be
> reached. I should probably take time to create a promela model and run
> that though the spin model checker to be sure.
> 

Just created a Promela model for this. It assumes sequential memory
ordering (so it's a fairly simplified model). Given I added memory
barriers between each operation, it should well represent reality
though.

My algorithm seems to behave as expected: when a callback is added to
the queue, it's not possible to have the waiter thread blocked until the
end of days.

Available at:
http://www.lttng.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=userspace-rcu.git;a=blob;f=formal-model/futex-wakeup/futex.spin

Thanks,

Mathieu

> Thanks for the comments,
> 
> Mathieu
> 
> > Chris
> 
> -- 
> Mathieu Desnoyers
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-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-26  7:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-23 17:48 [RFC] Userspace RCU: (ab)using futexes to save cpu cycles and energy Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-09-23 18:04 ` Chris Friesen
2009-09-23 19:03   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-09-23 22:32     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-09-23 23:12       ` Chris Friesen
2009-09-23 23:28         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-09-26  7:05           ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2009-09-28  7:11           ` Michael Schnell
2009-09-28 10:58             ` Michael Schnell
2009-09-28 11:01             ` Michael Schnell
2009-10-01 14:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-04 14:37   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-10-04 20:36     ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-04 21:12       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]     ` <4AC99D55.8000102@lumino.de>
     [not found]       ` <20091005125533.GA1857@Krystal>
2009-10-05 13:22         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-10-05 22:21           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-10-07  7:22         ` Michael Schnell

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