public inbox for linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] proc: augment /proc/pid/limits to allow setting of process limits (v2).
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:59:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090930005956.GA4848@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090929134603.3935b149.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 01:46:03PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:25:04 -0400
> Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com> wrote:
> 
> > 3) modify the proc/pid/limits write routine so that it uses do_setrlimit,
> > thereby giving us the previously missing security checks.
> 
> I dunno, the interface just seems goofy to me.
> 
Well, I hear what your saying, although conversely, but it seems a bit goofy to
me to allocate another syscall number just to do what sys_setrlimit does, but
with the addition of a pid specification.  I know theres precedent to do it, but
it seems no less goofy to me to do it that way than via a proc write.

> Yes, it's always been strange that rlimits cannot be externally
> altered.  And desirable to extend that.  But doing what is really a
> syscall via a profs poke when there already exists a syscall which does
> the same thing seems Just Wrong.
> 
Again, I understand what your saying, but to draw a parallel, the reason
/proc/pid/limits exists in the first place is because there was a desire to know
what the rlimit values were for a process from external contexts.  We could have
done this by creating a new syscall, and modifying the ulimit utility to accept
the data needed to support that new syscall.  But we didn't do that, we made a
proc file.  This just seems like the natural extension to that file, in my view.
With it, we don't need to create a new utility, or extend ulimit to make it all
work.

> What reason is there to do it via procfs?  Where's the benefit?
> 
Ease of use really.  With this interface, we can use cat/echo/etc to do
administrative control of process limits.  No need to extend ulimit, or create a
new utility.

> Maybe it's a plot to stop people from setting CONFIG_PROC_FS=n.
> 
hmm, so I'm looking at the patch.  90% of the work is done for a new syscall.
If you're adamant that you'd rather see it that way, how would you feel about a
both option?  I can write a follow on patch that creates a do_getrlimit, and
creates 2 new syscalls (to get/set rlimits for a specified pid).  Then we take
this patch as is, as well as the new patch, and we can access limits either way,
programatically via the syscalls, or from a high sysadmin interface via the proc
file.  Thoughts?

Neil


  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-30  1:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-28 20:06 [PATCH] proc: augment /proc/pid/limits to allow setting of process limits Neil Horman
2009-09-28 22:44 ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-29  1:14   ` Neil Horman
2009-09-29 20:25   ` [PATCH] proc: augment /proc/pid/limits to allow setting of process limits (v2) Neil Horman
2009-09-29 20:46     ` Andrew Morton
2009-09-30  0:59       ` Neil Horman [this message]
2009-10-01 17:15 ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v3) Neil Horman
2009-10-01 17:16   ` [PATCH 1/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-04 12:14     ` Marcin Slusarz
2009-10-04 16:50       ` Neil Horman
2009-10-04 20:04         ` Marcin Slusarz
2009-10-04 23:10           ` Neil Horman
2009-10-04 20:30     ` Marcin Slusarz
2009-10-01 17:21   ` [PATCH 2/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-01 17:22   ` [PATCH 3/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-05  0:26   ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v4) Neil Horman
2009-10-05  0:53     ` [PATCH 1/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-08 21:32       ` Marcin Slusarz
2009-10-09  2:00         ` Neil Horman
2009-10-05  0:54     ` [PATCH 2/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-05  1:57       ` Américo Wang
2009-10-05 12:32         ` Neil Horman
2009-10-05  0:54     ` [PATCH 3/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 16:13   ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v5) Neil Horman
2009-10-12 16:20     ` [PATCH 1/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 16:25     ` [PATCH 2/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 16:27     ` [PATCH 3/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 20:13     ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v6) Neil Horman
2009-10-12 20:20       ` [PATCH 1/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 20:23       ` [PATCH 2/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-12 20:25       ` [PATCH 3/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-20  0:52       ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v7) Neil Horman
2009-10-20  0:53         ` [PATCH 1/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-20  0:54         ` [PATCH 2/3] " Neil Horman
2009-11-02 15:10           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-02 17:40             ` Neil Horman
2009-10-20  0:55         ` [PATCH 3/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-28 14:44         ` [PATCH 0/3] " Neil Horman
2009-10-30 18:24           ` Neil Horman
2009-11-02 15:25         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-02 17:54           ` Neil Horman
2009-11-02 18:51             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-03  0:23               ` Neil Horman
2009-11-04 11:26                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-05 20:48                   ` Neil Horman
2009-11-06  9:26                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-06 10:00                       ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-08 10:36                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-09  0:10                           ` Neil Horman
2009-11-09  8:32                             ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-09 13:34                               ` Neil Horman
2009-11-09  8:54                       ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-09  9:01                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-09  9:22                           ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-09  9:26                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-09 13:35                               ` Neil Horman
2009-11-09 15:56                           ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-09 16:40                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-09 17:15                               ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-09 17:26                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-09 17:36                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-18 14:51                                   ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 01/16] core: posix-cpu-timers, cleanup rlimits usage Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 16:48                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 02/16] core: do security check under task_lock Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 21:47                                       ` James Morris
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 03/16] IA64: use ACCESS_ONCE for rlimits Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 18:56                                       ` Luck, Tony
2009-11-18 19:48                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-19  2:28                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 04/16] PPC: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 05/16] S390: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 06/16] SPARC: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 17:55                                       ` David Miller
2009-11-18 18:09                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 07/16] X86: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 08/16] FS: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 09/16] MM: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 15:29                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 10/16] core: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 11/16] misc: " Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 12/16] core: rename setrlimit to do_setrlimit Jiri Slaby
2009-11-20  6:10                                       ` Américo Wang
2009-11-18 14:51                                     ` [PATCH 13/16] core: implement getprlimit and setprlimit syscalls Jiri Slaby
2009-11-20 13:14                                       ` Neil Horman
2009-11-18 14:52                                     ` [PATCH 14/16] unistd: add __NR_[get|set]prlimit syscall numbers Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:52                                     ` [PATCH 15/16] COMPAT: add get/put_compat_rlimit Jiri Slaby
2009-12-30 23:55                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-06  9:35                                         ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 14:52                                     ` [PATCH 16/16] x86: add ia32 compat prlimit syscalls Jiri Slaby
2009-11-18 23:15                                     ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v7) Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-19 15:43                                       ` Jiri Slaby
2009-11-20  2:11                                         ` acct_file_reopen() && do_acct_process() (Was: [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v7)) Oleg Nesterov
2009-11-20 10:27                                           ` Jiri Slaby
2009-10-12 21:58     ` [PATCH 0/3] extend get/setrlimit to support setting rlimits external to a process (v5) Andrew Morton
2009-10-13  0:06       ` Neil Horman

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20090930005956.GA4848@localhost.localdomain \
    --to=nhorman@tuxdriver.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox