From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Bryan Donlan <bdonlan@gmail.com>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>,
Timo Sirainen <tss@iki.fi>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Added PR_SET_PROCTITLE_AREA option for prctl()
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:24:08 +0900 (JST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091005112314.5F89.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3e8340490910041921p315f3726me0143f2516022f66@mail.gmail.com>
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 9:59 PM, KOSAKI Motohiro
> <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 9:38 PM, KOSAKI Motohiro
> >> <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> >> >> The improvement idea is here.
> >> >>
> >> >> Changelog
> >> >> - Added task_lock() to prctl(PR_SET_PROCTITLE_AREA)
> >> >> - Added small input sanity check to prctl(PR_SET_PROCTITLE_AREA)
> >> >
> >> > Doh, task_lock() is obviously wrong. please forget this.
> >>
> >> As another note, in general I think we'd need to hold a lock over the
> >> entire operation. After all, if userspace changes its PROCTITLE_AREA,
> >> and then reuses the memory for something else, we have an information
> >> leak.
> >
> > if reusing occur, it's obviously userland fault. I don't think we need to care this.
> > because current kernel also can be information leak by strcpy(argv[0], mypassword).
> >
> > I think they are userland bug both.
>
> No, the scenario is:
>
> Process B: Enter proc_pid_cmdline(), read arg_start and arg_end into
> CPU registers
> Process A: prctl(PR_SET_PROCTITLE_AREA)....
> Process A: free(old_arg_area);
> Process A: char *foo = malloc(...);
> Process A: strcpy(foo, super_secret_password);
> Process B: access_process_vm - using an area overlapping foo
>
> Process B now has process A's secrets. This cannot be avoided by
> process A, as it cannot control when process B will complete
> proc_pid_cmdline(), and so the kernel must protect against this
> scenario. The only way a userspace process could prevent this is by
> only using PR_SET_PROCTITLE_AREA once, and never reusing that memory,
> ever. This does not seem like an appropriate restriction to pass down
> to userspace for me...
>
> Anyway, I'm working on a patch that uses the generation-counter approach now :)
Ok, you are right.
Plus, I've finished to made generation-counter approach patch :)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-05 2:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-02 21:23 [PATCH] Added PR_SET_PROCTITLE_AREA option for prctl() Timo Sirainen
2009-10-03 2:01 ` Bryan Donlan
2009-10-03 2:47 ` Timo Sirainen
2009-10-03 2:59 ` Bryan Donlan
2009-10-03 3:21 ` Timo Sirainen
2009-10-04 14:44 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-04 18:05 ` Bryan Donlan
2009-10-05 0:55 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-05 1:38 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-05 1:44 ` Bryan Donlan
2009-10-05 1:59 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-05 2:21 ` Bryan Donlan
2009-10-05 2:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2009-10-05 2:48 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-05 3:22 ` Bryan Donlan
2009-10-05 3:29 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-05 3:39 ` Bryan Donlan
2009-10-05 7:18 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-05 22:56 ` Timo Sirainen
2009-10-03 11:18 ` matthieu castet
2009-10-04 15:10 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
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