From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: "Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
lizf@cn.fujitsu.com, hch@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/9] perf trace: support for general-purpose scripting
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:54:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091006125420.GC15320@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c62985530910060240y6755a8acgf235db0845202540@mail.gmail.com>
* Frédéric Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/10/6 Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>:
> > Hi,
> >
> > This patchset defines a generic interface for processing the binary
> > output of 'perf trace' and making it directly available to
> > user-defined scripts written in general-purpose scripting languages
> > such as Perl or Python. It also builds a general-purpose Perl
> > scripting trace processor on top of the new interface and provides a
> > few example scripts that exercise the basic functionality.
> >
> > The main motivation behind it is to provide a more efficient and
> > powerful alternative to the popular method of parsing the ascii trace
> > output in order to extract useful information from it. To avoid the
> > overhead and complexity of all that, this patchset provides a
> > direct-to-script-interpreter pathway for doing the same thing, but in
> > a more regularized fashion, one that takes advantage of all the event
> > meta-info provided by the tracing infrustructure, such as the
> > event/field info contained in the 'format files' designed for that
> > purpose.
>
>
> That's really a great thing! I was also hesitating to implement a
> python interface to perf in order to quickly plug post processing
> tools. But your patchset does that in a much more generic way that I
> imagined: we can support other languages, we have well defined
> callbacks to process the events...
>
> Really nice, I hope we can give it a try in -tip soon.
Agreed! There's a few details to be improved and the license needs to be
kernel compatible but all in one, this is really great stuff! Ad-hoc
scripting based on the binary data stream is a quite powerful concept
IMO.
We might be able to inject more complete data structures into the
scripting space as well in the future, if the C side grows them. I.e. we
could have a healthy mixture of fast C code that provides not just a
dumb stream of records but also metadata and higher level data
structures, plus scripting.
One open question would be compatibility. I think initially we dont want
to provide format guarantees and script guarantees - this area is still
too fluid to pin down random details.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-06 12:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-06 6:09 [RFC][PATCH 0/9] perf trace: support for general-purpose scripting Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 6:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/9] tracing/events: Add 'signed' field to format files Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 13:06 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 15:05 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-07 4:30 ` Tom Zanussi
2009-10-07 1:06 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/9] " Steven Rostedt
2009-10-07 5:04 ` Tom Zanussi
2009-10-07 13:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-10-11 9:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 6:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/9] perf trace: Add subsystem string to struct event Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 13:06 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 6:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/9] perf trace: Add string/dynamic cases to format_flags Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 13:07 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 6:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/9] perf trace: Add trace scripting ops Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 6:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/9] perf trace: Add Perl scripting support Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 13:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-07 4:09 ` Tom Zanussi
2009-10-07 14:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-10-08 4:01 ` Tom Zanussi
2009-10-11 8:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-11 12:16 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-12 6:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 6:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/9] perf trace: Add scripting op for generating empty event handling scripts Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 6:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/9] perf trace: Add FIELD_IS_FLAG/SYMBOLIC cases to format_flags Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 6:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/9] perf trace: Add perf trace scripting support modules for Perl Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 12:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-07 4:02 ` Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 12:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-07 4:05 ` Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 6:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 9/9] perf trace: Add throwaway timestamp sorting Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 9:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] perf trace: support for general-purpose scripting Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 13:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-06 13:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-07 4:01 ` Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 9:40 ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-10-06 12:54 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-10-06 13:09 ` Ingo Molnar
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