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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: "Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	lizf@cn.fujitsu.com, hch@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/9] perf trace: support for general-purpose scripting
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:54:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091006125420.GC15320@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c62985530910060240y6755a8acgf235db0845202540@mail.gmail.com>


* Frédéric Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2009/10/6 Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>:
> > Hi,
> >
> > This patchset defines a generic interface for processing the binary
> > output of 'perf trace' and making it directly available to
> > user-defined scripts written in general-purpose scripting languages
> > such as Perl or Python.  It also builds a general-purpose Perl
> > scripting trace processor on top of the new interface and provides a
> > few example scripts that exercise the basic functionality.
> >
> > The main motivation behind it is to provide a more efficient and
> > powerful alternative to the popular method of parsing the ascii trace
> > output in order to extract useful information from it.  To avoid the
> > overhead and complexity of all that, this patchset provides a
> > direct-to-script-interpreter pathway for doing the same thing, but in
> > a more regularized fashion, one that takes advantage of all the event
> > meta-info provided by the tracing infrustructure, such as the
> > event/field info contained in the 'format files' designed for that
> > purpose.
> 
> 
> That's really a great thing! I was also hesitating to implement a 
> python interface to perf in order to quickly plug post processing 
> tools. But your patchset does that in a much more generic way that I 
> imagined: we can support other languages, we have well defined 
> callbacks to process the events...
> 
> Really nice, I hope we can give it a try in -tip soon.

Agreed! There's a few details to be improved and the license needs to be 
kernel compatible but all in one, this is really great stuff! Ad-hoc 
scripting based on the binary data stream is a quite powerful concept 
IMO.

We might be able to inject more complete data structures into the 
scripting space as well in the future, if the C side grows them. I.e. we 
could have a healthy mixture of fast C code that provides not just a 
dumb stream of records but also metadata and higher level data 
structures, plus scripting.

One open question would be compatibility. I think initially we dont want 
to provide format guarantees and script guarantees - this area is still 
too fluid to pin down random details.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-06 12:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-06  6:09 [RFC][PATCH 0/9] perf trace: support for general-purpose scripting Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06  6:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/9] tracing/events: Add 'signed' field to format files Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 13:06   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 15:05     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-07  4:30       ` Tom Zanussi
2009-10-07  1:06   ` [RFC][PATCH 1/9] " Steven Rostedt
2009-10-07  5:04     ` Tom Zanussi
2009-10-07 13:07       ` Steven Rostedt
2009-10-11  9:00         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06  6:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/9] perf trace: Add subsystem string to struct event Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 13:06   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06  6:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/9] perf trace: Add string/dynamic cases to format_flags Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 13:07   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06  6:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/9] perf trace: Add trace scripting ops Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06  6:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/9] perf trace: Add Perl scripting support Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 13:00   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-07  4:09     ` Tom Zanussi
2009-10-07 14:13       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-10-08  4:01         ` Tom Zanussi
2009-10-11  8:58           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-11 12:16             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-12  6:03               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06  6:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/9] perf trace: Add scripting op for generating empty event handling scripts Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06  6:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/9] perf trace: Add FIELD_IS_FLAG/SYMBOLIC cases to format_flags Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06  6:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/9] perf trace: Add perf trace scripting support modules for Perl Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 12:39   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-07  4:02     ` Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06 12:45   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-07  4:05     ` Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06  6:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 9/9] perf trace: Add throwaway timestamp sorting Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06  9:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] perf trace: support for general-purpose scripting Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 13:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-06 13:53     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-07  4:01   ` Tom Zanussi
2009-10-06  9:40 ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-10-06 12:54   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-10-06 13:09 ` Ingo Molnar

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