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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>,
	Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@us.ibm.com>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	roland@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] signals: send_signal: use si_fromuser() to detect from_ancestor_ns
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:18:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091006131821.GA8628@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091006023401.GA10132@us.ibm.com>

On 10/05, Sukadev Bhattiprolu wrote:
>
> Oleg Nesterov [oleg@redhat.com] wrote:
> | On 10/05, Sukadev Bhattiprolu wrote:
> | >
> | > Oleg Nesterov [oleg@redhat.com] wrote:
> | > | Sorry for confusion.
> | > |
> | > | > But sure, we could use force_sig_info() in caller.
> | > |
> | > | Yes, because this makes the code more explicit imho. And we can avoid
> | > | the further complicatiions in send_signal() path.
> | >
> | > Although, one small drawback would be the different behavior for the
> | > SIGKILL in load_aout_binary() to the container-init itself calling:
> | >
> | > 	kill(getpid(), SIGKILL);
> |
> | could you clarify? load_aout_binary(), like other ->load_binary()
> | methods does send_sig(SIGKILL, current, 0) ?
>
> Yes sorry for being cryptic.
>
> If we use force_sig_info() in ->load_binary() methods for the SIGKILL,
> they will, correctly, kill the container-init.
>
> But if the container-init itself calls kill(getpid(), SIGKILL), the
> container-init will not be killed.

Ah, now I see what you mean.

Yes sure, init can't kill itself with or without these changes. But,
I think this is supposed behaviour which we do not want to change?


Oh. And I guess I misunderstood you before. From the previous email

> Makes sense. And we had mentioned earlier that container-init is immune
> to suicide

I guess this is what you meant, and I fully agree.

When I said "I disagree with container-init is immune to suicide",
I wrongly thought that you suggest that load_binary()->kill(SIGKILL)
should have no effect. I have to apologize for confusion again.

I hope we finally understand each other ;)

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-06 13:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4AC608BE.9020805@fr.ibm.com>
2009-10-03 17:10 ` pidns : PR_SET_PDEATHSIG + SIGKILL regression Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-04  2:18   ` [PATCH 0/4] Was: " Oleg Nesterov
2009-10-04  2:19     ` [PATCH 1/4] signals: SEND_SIG_NOINFO should be considered as SI_FROMUSER() Oleg Nesterov
2009-10-04  2:25       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-10-05 17:58       ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-05 18:39         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-10-06  0:09       ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-06  7:31       ` Roland McGrath
2009-10-06 13:37         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-10-06 17:57           ` Roland McGrath
2009-10-07 11:30             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-10-08  1:57               ` Roland McGrath
2009-10-04  2:19     ` [PATCH 2/4] signals: send_signal: use si_fromuser() to detect from_ancestor_ns Oleg Nesterov
2009-10-05 18:12       ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-05 18:25         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-10-05 19:37           ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-05 19:44             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-10-05 19:55               ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-10-06  0:06               ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-06  1:09                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-10-06  2:34                   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-06 13:18                     ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-10-06 18:01                       ` Roland McGrath
2009-10-06  0:16       ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-04  2:20     ` [PATCH 3/4] signals: cosmetic, collect_signal: use SI_USER Oleg Nesterov
2009-10-05 18:03       ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-10-04  2:20     ` [PATCH 4/4] signals: kill force_sig_specific() Oleg Nesterov
2009-10-05 18:04       ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu

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