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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, dvhltc@us.ibm.com, niv@us.ibm.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, dhowells@redhat.com, avi@redhat.com,
	mtosatti@redhat.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/3] rcu: The Bloatwatch Edition, v7
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:09:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091014010956.GG6782@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AD51D3E.60103@cn.fujitsu.com>

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 08:37:18AM +0800, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
> Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> >> It's an old issue.
> >> It's not only about RCUTINY, it's also about other rcu implementations:
> >>
> >> rcu_enter_nohz()/rcu_exit_nohz() are not called in pairs.
> >>
> >> irq_exit() calls tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick() which calls rcu_enter_nohz(),
> >> where is the corresponding rcu_exit_nohz()?
> >> (or tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick())?
> > 
> > The tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick() function is called from the various
> > per-architecture cpu_idle() functions (or default_idle() or whatever
> > name that the architecture uses).  For example, in:
> > 
> > 	arch/x86/kernel/process_64.c
> > 
> > the cpu_idle() function invokes tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick() just
> > before invoking schedule() to exit the idle loop.
> > 
> > And, as you say, tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick() invokes rcu_exit_nohz().
> 
> These tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick() which are called from the various
> per-architecture cpu_idle() functions are not the opposite of
> the tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick() in *irq_exit()*. So I figure that 
> rcu_enter_nohz()/rcu_exit_nohz() are not called in pairs.

OK, let's start with rcu_enter_nohz(), which tells RCU that the running
CPU is going into dyntick-idle mode, and thus should be ignored by RCU.
Let's do the idle loop first:

o	Upon entry to the idle() loop (using cpu_idle() in
	arch/x86/kernel/process_64.c for this exercise),
	we invoke tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick(1), which says we
	are in an idle loop.  (This is in contrast to the call
	from irq_exit(), where we are not in the idle loop.)

o	tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick() invokes rcu_enter_nohz(),
	does a bunch of timer checking, and returns.  If anything
	indicated that entering dyntick-idle mode would be bad,
	we raise TIMER_SOFTIRQ to kick us out of this mode.

	Either way, we return to the idle loop.

o	The idle loops until need_resched().  Upon exit from the
	idle loop, we call tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick(), which
	invokes rcu_exit_nohz(), which tells RCU to start paying
	attention to this CPU once more.

OK, now for interrupts.

o	The hardware interrupt handlers invoke irq_enter(), which in
	turn invokes rcu_irq_enter().  This has no real effect (other
	than incrementing a counter) if the interrupt did not come
	from dyntick-idle mode.

	Either way, RCU is now paying attention to RCU read-side
	critical sections on this CPU.

o	Upon return from interrupt, the hardware interrupt handlers
	invoke irq_exit(), which in turn invokes rcu_irq_exit().
	This has no real effect (other than decrementing a counter)
	if the interrupt is not returning to dyntick-idle mode.

	However, if the interrupt -is- returning to dyntick-idle
	mode, then RCU will stop paying attention to RCU read-side
	critical sections on this CPU.

So I do believe that rcu_enter_nohz() and rcu_exit_nohz() are in fact
invoked in pairs.  One strange thing about this is that the idle loop
first invokes rcu_enter_nohz(), then invokes rcu_exit_nohz(), while
an interrupt handler first invokes rcu_irq_enter() and then invokes
rcu_irq_exit().  So the idle loop enters dyntick-idle mode and then
leaves it, while an interrupt handler might leave dyntick-idle mode and
then re-enter it.

Or am I still missing something here?

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-14  1:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-09 22:49 [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/3] Tiny RCU and expedited SRCU Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-09 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/3] rcu: The Bloatwatch Edition, v7 Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-12  9:29   ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-10-12 16:40     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-12 17:30     ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-13  6:05       ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-10-13  7:44   ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-10-13 17:00     ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-14  0:37       ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-10-14  1:09         ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2009-10-14  2:05           ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-10-14  2:49             ` Steven Rostedt
2009-10-27  7:26               ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-10-27 19:56                 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-10-14  2:52             ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-09 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 2/3] rcu: Add synchronize_srcu_expedited() Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-09 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 3/3] rcu: add synchronize_srcu_expedited() to the rcutorture test suite Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-10  3:47 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/3] Tiny RCU and expedited SRCU Josh Triplett

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