From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751218AbZJYEFL (ORCPT ); Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:05:11 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750737AbZJYEFK (ORCPT ); Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:05:10 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([18.85.46.34]:54880 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750734AbZJYEFK (ORCPT ); Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:05:10 -0400 Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 00:05:03 -0400 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Steven Rostedt Cc: Ingo Molnar , Greg KH , Frederic Weisbecker , Ingo Molnar , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner , Peter Zijlstra Subject: Re: [RFC] tracefs Message-ID: <20091025040503.GA15781@infradead.org> References: <20091023004937.GA24035@kroah.com> <20091023053237.GA24359@elte.hu> <1256303528.20866.822.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1256303528.20866.822.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by bombadil.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 09:12:08AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > Note, I wasn't talking about tie down the pretty-print formats. But we > need to have a standard way to change them. Which means to tie down it I think. Once we do have a good enough format those bits need to be locked down, with a way for adding new attributes (either entirely new or better replacmeents for existing ones with leaving the old ones in place for existing userspace). In addition to the format description people have also asked for ABI tracepoints which would lock down the actual trace format in the the same way (only addition of new fields without removing or changing existing ones). For this to be actually useful some trace buffer also needs to be exposed in an ABI-stable (that is non-debugfs way).