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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: symlinks with permissions (fwd)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:10:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091028211040.GA4182@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)

(I forgot to cc the list)

From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: symlinks with permissions
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Hi!

> >> > Part of the problem is that even  if you have read-only
> >> > filedescriptor, you can upgrade it to read-write, even if path is
> >> > inaccessible to you.
> >> >
> >> > So if someone passes you read-only filedescriptor, you can still write
> >> > to it.
> >> 
> >> Openly if you actually have permission to open the file again.  The actual
> >> permissions on the file should not be ignored.
> >
> > The actual permissions of the file are not ignored, but permissions of
> > the containing directory _are_. If there's 666 file in 700 directory,
> > you can reopen it read-write, in violation of directory's 700
> > permissions.
> 
> I can see how all of this can come as a surprise.  However I don't see
> how any coder who is taking security seriously and being paranoid about
> security would actually write code that would have a problem with this.
> 
> Do you know of any cases where this difference matters in practice?

Actually yes, see the bugtraq post. guest was able to write to my file
when I expected that file to be protected.

According to the bugtraq discussion, people expect directory
permissions to work. /proc currently breaks that. I bet there are few
systems in the wild that have permissions set up like that, but it is
not easy to actually find such systems.

Better fix it...
								Pavel


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             reply	other threads:[~2009-10-28 21:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-28 21:10 Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-10-29  5:07 ` symlinks with permissions (fwd) Casey Schaufler
2009-10-29  8:05   ` David Wagner
2009-10-29 20:35   ` Pavel Machek

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