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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	"K.Prasad" <prasad@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@gmail.com>, Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>,
	Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>, Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] perf/core: Provide a kernel-internal interface to get to performance counters
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:00:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091102130012.GA4878@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19182.47317.438053.553079@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>

On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 09:47:49PM +1100, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> Arjan van de Ven writes:
> 
> > On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:46:55 +1100
> > Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > Frederic Weisbecker writes:
> > > 
> > > >  /*
> > > > + * perf_event_create_kernel_counter
> > > > + * MUST be called from a kernel thread.
> > > 
> > > Why?  The reason for this requirement isn't obvious to me.  It would
> > > be good to have the reason documented in the comment for the sake of
> > > people modifying the code in future.
> > 
> > because if you call it from another context it will attach to that
> > context... and go away when that context goes away...
> 
> I don't think that's right.  When a task exits, that doesn't
> automatically kill all the perf_events it created.  The perf_events
> each have a reference to their owner's task_struct, so the task_struct
> will hang around until all of the perf_events get released.  Normally
> top-level perf_events have an associated filp and we use its reference
> count to control the perf_event lifetime, but with these new kernel
> perf_events there is no filp, so the caller will have to do any
> refcounting required.
> 
> Bottom line is that a perf_event created by
> perf_event_create_kernel_counter will exist until someone calls
> perf_event_release_kernel on it, whether or not the owner task exits
> (and whether or not that task is a kernel thread or a usermode
> process).  So I see no need to prohibit creating kernel perf_events in
> the context of a user task, though callers need to be aware that doing
> so could potentially mean the user task's task_struct has to hang
> around for a long time after the task exits.
> 
> Paul.


Yeah. For example while creating a breakpoint through ptrace,
the owner of an event created by perf_event_create_kernel_counter
is the user task that does the ptrace call.

But we need to explicitly release some disabled/pending ptrace
breakpoints using perf_event_release_kernel when the task exits.
I should simplify this part in the future.

That said, it's all fine to set the owner as a user task like in this
example.

Should I remove this comment?


  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-02 13:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-24 14:16 [GIT PULL v2] hw-breakpoints: Rewrite on top of perf events Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-24 14:16 ` [PATCH 1/6] perf/core: Provide a kernel-internal interface to get to performance counters Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-24 14:16 ` [PATCH 2/6] x86/hw-breakpoints: Actually flush thread breakpoints in flush_thread() Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-24 14:16 ` [PATCH 3/6] perf/core: Add a callback to perf events Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-24 14:16 ` [PATCH 4/6] hw-breakpoints: Rewrite the hw-breakpoints layer on top of " Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-24 16:19   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-10-25 23:31     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-26  8:17       ` Jan Kiszka
2009-11-01 21:09         ` [GIT PULL v3] hw-breakpoints: Rewrite " Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-01 21:09         ` [PATCH 1/6] perf/core: Provide a kernel-internal interface to get to performance counters Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-02  3:46           ` Paul Mackerras
2009-11-02  5:38             ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-11-02 10:47               ` Paul Mackerras
2009-11-02 13:00                 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2009-11-01 21:09         ` [PATCH 2/6] x86/hw-breakpoints: Actually flush thread breakpoints in flush_thread() Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-01 21:09         ` [PATCH 3/6] perf/core: Add a callback to perf events Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-02  3:49           ` Paul Mackerras
2009-11-02 13:01             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-01 21:09         ` [PATCH 4/6] hw-breakpoints: Rewrite the hw-breakpoints layer on top of " Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-01 22:09           ` Jan Kiszka
2009-11-01 22:49             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-01 23:37             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-02  7:45               ` Jan Kiszka
2009-11-02 13:04                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-01 21:09         ` [PATCH 5/6] hw-breakpoints: Arbitrate access to pmu following registers constraints Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-01 21:09         ` [PATCH 6/6] ksym_tracer: Remove KSYM_SELFTEST_ENTRY Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-24 14:16 ` [PATCH 5/6] hw-breakpoints: Arbitrate access to pmu following registers constraints Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-24 14:16 ` [PATCH 6/6] ksym_tracer: Remove KSYM_SELFTEST_ENTRY Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-24 14:19 ` [GIT PULL v2] hw-breakpoints: Rewrite on top of perf events Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-26 21:31 ` K.Prasad
2009-10-29 19:07   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-02  6:25     ` K.Prasad
2009-11-02 14:07       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-04 14:14         ` K.Prasad
2009-11-05 11:02           ` Frederic Weisbecker
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-03 19:11 [GIT PULL v4] hw-breakpoints: Rewrite on top of perf events v4 Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-03 19:11 ` [PATCH 1/6] perf/core: Provide a kernel-internal interface to get to performance counters Frederic Weisbecker

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