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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
To: Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morgan <morgan@kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <kees.cook@canonical.com>,
	Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@suse.de>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	George Wilson <gcwilson@us.ibm.com>,
	KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@kaigai.gr.jp>
Subject: Re: drop SECURITY_FILE_CAPABILITIES?
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:53:49 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091110155349.GA18185@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200911101028.10797.sgrubb@redhat.com>

Quoting Steve Grubb (sgrubb@redhat.com):
> On Tuesday 10 November 2009 09:07:39 am Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > I think that's the case most users will care about, whereas the
> > remaining differences between CONFIG_SECURITY_FILE_CAPABILITIES=y
> > and =n are that with CONFIG_SECURITY_FILE_CAPABILITIES=y :
> > 
> > 	(1) certain security hooks (task_setscheduler, task_setioprio, and
> > 	task_setnice) do capability set comparisions,
> > 	(2) it is possible to drop capabilities from the bounding set,
> > 	(3) it is possible to set per-task securelevels,
> > 	(4) and it is possible to add any capability to your inheritable
> > 	set if you have CAP_SETPCAP.
> > 
> > Does anyone know of cases where CONFIG_SECURITY_FILE_CAPABILITIES=n
> > is still perceived as useful?
> 
> As a library writer, I wished that the kernel behavior was either consistent, 
> or there is an API that I can use to find out what model we are operating 
> under. The biggest issue is that for a distribution we know the assumptions 
> the distribution should be running under. But end users are free to build 
> their own kernel that has it disabled. This has already lead to dbus not 
> working at all.
> 
> I also take issue with probing the capability version number returning EINVAL 
> when its the only way to find out what the preferred version is.

In 2007/2008, KaiGai had floated patches to export capability info
over securityfs.  If it was something library writers and distros
wanted, we could resurrect those patches - and tack on some info
about cap-related kernel config.

-serge

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-10 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-10 14:07 drop SECURITY_FILE_CAPABILITIES? Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-10 15:28 ` Steve Grubb
2009-11-10 15:53   ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2009-11-10 17:51     ` Steve Grubb
2009-11-11  0:19       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-11-18 16:40         ` Andrew G. Morgan
2009-11-18 17:49           ` Steve Grubb
2009-11-18 18:36             ` Andrew G. Morgan
2009-11-18 19:33               ` Steve Grubb
2009-11-18 19:39                 ` Andrew G. Morgan
2009-11-19 15:35                 ` Andrew G. Morgan
2009-11-19 20:26                   ` Steve Grubb
2009-11-10 17:23 ` Kees Cook

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