From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Adam Litke <agl@us.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: virtio: Add memory statistics reporting to the balloon driver
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:29:13 +1030 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200911111029.13791.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AF97A5E.1070801@codemonkey.ws>
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:06:14 am Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Rusty Russell wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:02:06 am Adam Litke wrote:
> >
> >> A simpler approach is to collect memory statistics in the virtio
> >> balloon driver and communicate them to the host via the device config space.
> >>
> >
> > There are two issues I see with this. First, there's an atomicity problem
> > since you can't tell when the stats are consistent.
>
> Actually, config writes always require notification from the guest to
> the host. This means the host knows when they config space is changed
> so atomicity isn't a problem.
I think you missed my point: the stats are inter-related, so they should be
served together.
> In fact, if it were a problem, then the balloon driver would be
> fundamentally broken because target and actual are stored in the config
> space.
No, one is written by the host, the other the guest. Still works.
> If you recall, we had this discussion originally wrt the balloon driver :-)
And I never did get around to the lguest implementation, which would have
seen if this really is an issue.
> > Second, polling is ugly.
>
> As opposed to?
As opposed to giving the stats whenever asked by the host.
> > A stats vq might solve this more cleanly?
> >
>
> actual and target are both really just stats. Had we implemented those
> with a vq, I'd be inclined to agree with you but since they're
> implemented in the config space, it seems natural to extend the config
> space with other stats.
It does, *if* we don't need accuracy. Otherwise, it seems like we need
something else.
Cheers,
Rusty.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-10 23:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <1257782838.2835.5.camel@aglitke>
2009-11-09 16:32 ` virtio: Add memory statistics reporting to the balloon driver Adam Litke
2009-11-10 2:42 ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-10 14:36 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-11-10 14:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-10 14:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-11 9:24 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-11 10:12 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-11-11 13:26 ` Adam Litke
2009-11-11 15:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-10 23:59 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2009-11-10 21:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-11 0:02 ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-11 0:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-11 2:43 ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-11 15:08 ` Adam Litke
2009-11-12 2:29 ` Rusty Russell
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